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Do you agree that christians should keep the 10 Commandments?

10 commandments for christians or not?

  • No 10 commandments for Christians

  • Chriatians should keep the 10 commandments

  • 10 commandments except Sabbath


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What about trusting God to provide a job that would allow you to keep the Sabbath?

Because gentiles were not under sabby. Are we commanded to keep the passover, be cut, and offer animals? It was all the law. Since the passover was for Israel, why is somehow the jewish sabby extended to gentiles?

Why were the jewish Christians at Antioch, living as gentiles, eating pork, and not keeping the Jewish calendar? Gal 4;10, read it when u have a minute.

Exodus 12:43-48 And the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, “This is the statute of the Passover: no foreigner shall eat of it, 44 but every slave that is bought for money may eat of it after you have circumcised him. 45 No foreigner or hired servant may eat of it. 46 It shall be eaten in one house; you shall not take any of the flesh outside the house, and you shall not break any of its bones. 47 All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. 48 If a stranger shall sojourn with you and would keep the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised. Then he may come near and keep it; he shall be as a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it.
 
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What about trusting God to provide a job that would allow you to keep the Sabbath?

What about if there is no comparable job?...or no job openings at all?
 
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What about trusting God to provide a job that would allow you to keep the Sabbath?

Just make sure you never need the police, fire, doctor, ambulance, ect on the sabbath, you wouldn't want to be causing them to work on the Sabbath either would you?
 
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Originally Posted by Elder 111
What about trusting God to provide a job that would allow you to keep the Sabbath
Just make sure you never need the police, fire, doctor, ambulance, ect on the sabbath, you wouldn't want to be causing them to work on the Sabbath either would you?
Which leads me to ask, how many Christian/non-Christian Jews in the US actually work between 6pm Friday thru 6pm Saturday

For Every Rule, There Are Always Exceptions

<snip>.....By concentrating on religion and the laws, the Jews lost the ability to reach God. God had to reach man by coming to earth in the form of Jesus Christ. He emphasized that in order to have a relationship with God only two rules had to be obeyed-love God and love people. We are called upon to obey the same two laws if we want to have a relationship with God. We will have restored our relationship with God if we love people, and show it by doing things in faith such as comforting the less fortunate (even on the Sabbath. By doing these holy things, we will be obeying the commandment to "Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy".

Phil 3:2 Beware of-the dogs, beware of-the evil workers, beware of-the circumcision!
3 For we-are the circumcision, ones to Spirit of God worship, boasting in Christ Jesus and not in flesh having confidence.

 
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What about trusting God to provide a job that would allow you to keep the Sabbath?

With all due respect, judaism was a closed system, why do you seem to esteem sabby, over passover, if they had to keep sabby, they had to keep passover. Do we gentiles have to keep it all? How does one just pick what they want to out of the book of the law? 613 laws.

Josh 1:8 This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

James 2:10.
10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.


Gal 3:10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, &#8220;Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.&#8221;


gal 5:3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law

When they got the law, they said "ALL THE LORD SAYS WE WILL DO".
Sooooo..how do we pick and choose?
 
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I am still not clear on your position on sin and lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness. (1 john 3:4)

Perhaps it would be easier, if you could post 1 NT verse, that shows law stopping sin in the heart. Thanks.
 
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It is made clear that we as Christians are under grace and are save by grace by faith.
Does that mean that we do not keep the 10 commandments?

No Christian keeps the 10 because none keep the Sabbaths even though some claim to keep them .


A Jehovah's witness made it a point of telling me that the commandments are abolished. My next question was, can I have sex with you?

That isn't the 10 commandments . That is not even a part of the 10 commandments .


If we acknowledge that we can not lie or steal or commit adultery, do we not acknowledge that the law is still for us?

No . If you need to have something written on paper or stone to keep yourself from doing things , it means that that piece of paper or stone is your god .
 
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No . If you need to have something written on paper or stone to keep yourself from doing things , it means that that piece of paper or stone is your god .

So if I write a note reminding myself that my dishwasher is broken so I don't accidentally try to run it, that's a god to me?
 
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Only Jesus give power to over come sin. Rom. 7:24-25.
The 10 was never covering sin. But how would I know sin without the 10?
Acknowledging the law is not to gain salvation, not at all. How can I proclaim to be saved and not keep the law?
What the law cannot do (this would include the entire 613 commandments..not just the 10):

1. It cannont justify:

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

2. It cannot redeem:

Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

3. It cannot give an inheritance:

Romans 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Romans 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

4. It cannot control sin in man (Romans 7:7-23):

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

5. It cannot free from sin and death (Romsns 8:2):

6. It cannot free a sinner from condemnation:

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit

7. It cannot bring righteousness (Romans 8:4).

8. It cannot impart the Holy Spirit:

Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

9. It cannot free from the curse:

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

10. It cannot impart grace:

Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

11. It cannot enable a man to obey:

Hebrews 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

12. It cannot make perfect:

Hebrews 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

One "proclaims" salvation by "walking in the Spirit", not "after the flesh". The OT law cannot "fix" the flesh to enable it to "obey the 10". By "walking in the Spirit", one allows the Spirit to produce the nine manifestations of the "fruit of the Spirit":

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Galatians 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

The Holy Spirit produces the fruit...not us. The New Testament declares that those OT ordinances of the law have been "nailed to the cross of Christ" (Colossians 2:14). The only purpose of the OT law was to reveal sin...like a schoolmaster. (Galatians 3:23-25) This doesn't mean we become "lawless"...we are now under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:1-2), which is a "higher law of love". This is only produced by the Holy Spirit of God, not by OUR obedience to the OT law, which is called the "law of sin and death".
 
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Watch out! Here come the Antinomians.
Antinominianism is a false teaching....that is NOT what is taught when one believes that they are saved by grace alone through faith alone. Salvation does not teach lawlessness. It teaches that we are not under the "curse of the (OT) law, but we are under the law of Christ, which is a higher law. It's not just "Thou shalt not commit adultery"...it is now:

Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Therefore, it's not just the act of adultery that is the sin...it is the THOUGHT.

No, salvation does not teach a "do as you please because you are under grace" Gospel.
 
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Nice post. Well written!
 
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Only Jesus give power to over come sin. Rom. 7:24-25.
The 10 was never covering sin. But how would I know sin without the 10?
Acknowledging the law is not to gain salvation, not at all. How can I proclaim to be saved and not keep the law?
Fairly simple. Be lead by the Spirit and not the law. If one follows the law for any reason they're not lead by the Spirit according to Gal 5:18.
 
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Great post! Good work Sister!
 
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One of my favorites!
 
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What I wonder about is the repercussions.
 
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