Do you agree that christians should keep the 10 Commandments?

from scratch · Mar 27, 2011

Deut 5:29 said:
Of course.
They were all taught by word, and or, example throughout the NT.
God changes not.

While I accept Mal 3:6 which refers to God's character, I don't accept the idea that God's program (for lack of better expression) doesn't change - For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

A simple reading of the Scriptures will show this very thing. The promise to cut a new covenant is proof enough that there is indeed change. If one needs more there is Hosea 2:11. Even Jesus (God) testifies to the promise of Jeremiah as a curent fact. There are 3 witnesses to the fact by 3 gospels and the dozen at the scene.

addo · Mar 27, 2011

No. Technically speaking, Christians aren't to keep the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments are just part of a deal between God and Isreal. He rescued them and gave them their own land in exchange for them to be His holy people and keep His law which He gave them in the desert. Since the Old Covenant is abolished, all the terms on which it was based as well.

We are living in under a new better covenant now made between us (Jews/Gentiles) and God. Some of the terms are common with the old one -- some aren't. We are to keep the will of God and we often find the will of God in the Law, that is, when reading the old contract.

This is how I understand it.

LittleLambofJesus · Mar 27, 2011

Do you agree that christians should keep the 10 Commandments?

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Originally Posted by ortho_cat

which ten commandments? There are two sets of them, IIRC...

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Ten Commandments

Did you know that there are two different sets of ten commandments? They are the same commandments but they are split differently.

The Roman Catholic Church splits the last commandment about coveting your neighbours wife or property. Whereas everyone else, including the Anglican Church splits the first commandment about God.

Therefore, according to Roman Catholics the 5th commandment is: You shall not kill.

Whereas for everyone else the 6th commandment is: You shall not kill.

Do Anglican Catholics follow the Roman Catholic translation of the ten commandments or the Protestant translation?

http://www.ewtn.com/library/SOURCES/TA-CAT-2.TXT

Steve Petersen · Mar 27, 2011

What would be the harm of keeping the 10 Commandments?

Steve Petersen · Mar 27, 2011

ortho_cat said:
which ten commandments? There are two sets of them, IIRC...

Very good point. This is true.

Presumably those in Exodus 20?

Frogster · Mar 27, 2011

Steve Petersen said:
What would be the harm of keeping the 10 Commandments?

Do we bind the conscience with rules, whereby the very 10 cause condemnation, and arouse sin?

Yarddog · Mar 27, 2011

Elder 111 said:
So that that which we like to use to say the commandments are abolished is really telling us that it is not.
The 10 still stands!

The 10 exists within the New Commandment. Love. The person who fails to love another, fails to love God.

In the OT, a Law was worthy of death but under the NT, that death was occurred. We are part of that death through faith, just as we are part of the resurrection, through faith.

But faith is more than saying, I believe. It is taking on the new creation. Being something more than we were.

If we think that it is okay to hate another, we fool ourselves in believing that we have faith. There will be a time when all that we have done will be brought into the light.

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Geneva]"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven {will enter.} [/FONT]

It is no longer about a list of do's and don'ts but being obedient to the Spirit which God gives his children.

Frogster · Mar 27, 2011

Yarddog said:
The 10 exists within the New Commandment. Love. The person who fails to love another, fails to love God.

In the OT, a Law was worthy of death but under the NT, that death was occurred. We are part of that death through faith, just as we are part of the resurrection, through faith.

But faith is more than saying, I believe. It is taking on the new creation. Being something more than we were.

If we think that it is okay to hate another, we fool ourselves in believing that we have faith. There will be a time when all that we have done will be brought into the light.

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Geneva]"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven {will enter.} [/FONT]

It is no longer about a list of do's and don'ts but being obedient to the Spirit which God gives his children.

though i do not agree with your total theology, and fusion, on this post only, the way it reads, i agree generally without total scrutiny.

from scratch · Mar 27, 2011

addo said:
No. Technically speaking, Christians aren't to keep the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments are just part of a deal between God and Isreal. He rescued them and gave them their own land in exchange for them to be His holy people and keep His law which He gave them in the desert. Since the Old Covenant is abolished, all the terms on which it was based as well.

We are living in under a new better covenant now made between us (Jews/Gentiles) and God. Some of the terms are common with the old one -- some aren't. We are to keep the will of God and we often find the will of God in the Law, that is, when reading the old contract.

This is how I understand it.

Very good understanding!

Yarddog · Mar 27, 2011

Frogster said:
Good one! And by the way, Mom said you did not take out the garbage, and you fell asleep on the couch again, watching tv!

I know that you took care of it for me because you are your brother's keeper.

Frogster · Mar 27, 2011

Steve Petersen said:
What would be the harm of keeping the 10 Commandments?

Would it not be better to live in faith each day, the same way we got saved?

Why were the galatians doing well, until the law party came? 5:7

2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?

Then they were told to live As Abe...The Spirit came after the age of law, it is the gospel.

13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for usfor it is written, Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

from scratch · Mar 27, 2011

Steve Petersen said:
What would be the harm of keeping the 10 Commandments?

Is there a difference in behavior that appears similar to keeping the 10 Cs and actually keeping the 10 Cs? Desirable behavior is never to be condemned whatever causes it.

LittleLambofJesus · Mar 27, 2011

Frogster said:
Do we bind the conscience with rules, whereby the very 10 cause condemnation, and arouse sin?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7426625-10/#post56064563
Hebrew 9:14

Hebrews 9:14 much more rather the blood of the Christ thru an age-abiding spirit Himself , an offer flawless to the God, shall be cleansing the concience of us from dead works, into the be ministering/serving/ a living God

Last time used in NT/NC of Bible:

Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for KJV
(conscience)
occurs 31 times in 29 verses in the KJV
Page 1 / 2 inexact matches (Jhn 8:9 - Hbr 10:22)

Rotherham) 1 Peter 3:21 Which [water] in manner corresponding, doth, now, save, you also--even immersion,--not a putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the request unto God, for a good conscience/suneidhsewV <4893>, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,--

4893. suneidesis soon-i'-day-sis from a prolonged form of 4894; co-perception, i.e. moral consciousness:--conscience
4894. suneido soon-i'-do from 4862 and 1492;
4862. sun soon a primary preposition denoting union; with or together
1492. eido i'-do a primary verb; used only in certain past tenses, the others being borrowed from the equivalent 3700 and 3708; properly, to see (literally or figuratively); by implication, (in the perfect tense only) to know:--be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider, (have) know(-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wish, wot.

Frogster · Mar 27, 2011

Yarddog said:
I know that you took care of it for me because you are your brother's keeper.

you're pretty quick for a man your age.

Frogster · Mar 27, 2011

LittleLambofJesus said:
http://www.christianforums.com/t7426625-10/#post56064563
Hebrew 9:14

Hebrews 9:14 much more rather the blood of the Christ thru an age-abiding spirit Himself , an offer flawless to the God, shall be cleansing the concience of us from dead works, into the be ministering/serving/ a living God

Last time used in NT/NC of Bible:

Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for KJV

Rotherham) 1 Peter 3:21 Which [water] in manner corresponding, doth, now, save, you also--even immersion,--not a putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the request unto God, for a good conscience/suneidhsewV <4893>, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,--

4893. suneidesis soon-i'-day-sis from a prolonged form of 4894; co-perception, i.e. moral consciousness:--conscience
4894. suneido soon-i'-do from 4862 and 1492;
4862. sun soon a primary preposition denoting union; with or together
1492. eido i'-do a primary verb; used only in certain past tenses, the others being borrowed from the equivalent 3700 and 3708; properly, to see (literally or figuratively); by implication, (in the perfect tense only) to know:--be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider, (have) know(-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wish, wot.

I hear ya cowboy.

Those who are led by the Spirit, are the mature sons of God. Rules are for children.

4:1 I mean that the heir, as long as he is a child, is no different from a slave, though he is the owner of everything, 2 but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by his father. 3 In the same way we also, when we were children, were enslaved to the elementary principles of the world.

Yarddog · Mar 27, 2011

Frogster said:
you're pretty quick for a man your age.

That depends on which what decision I have to make.

Frogster · Mar 27, 2011

Yarddog said:
That depends on which what decision I have to make.

do the bacon.

LittleLambofJesus · Mar 27, 2011

Yarddog said:
That depends on which what decision I have to make.

Frogster said:
do the bacon.

Nothing wakes me up better than the smell of cooking bacon and brewing coffeee

http://www.christianforums.com/t7457416-96/#post54483517

"I'm a practising Muslim. I don't eat pork and I don't drink alcohol but it's just a breeding operation like any other and no Imam has ever reprimanded me for it," he said of raising pigs -- whose consumption is prohibited in both Islam and Judaism.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7405874-35/#post53087276
Do You Eat Pork? (2)

YouTube - Funny blooper

Frogster · Mar 27, 2011

LittleLambofJesus said:
Nothing wakes me up better than the smell of cooking bacon and brewing coffeee

http://www.christianforums.com/t7457416-96/#post54483517

"I'm a practising Muslim. I don't eat pork and I don't drink alcohol but it's just a breeding operation like any other and no Imam has ever reprimanded me for it," he said of raising pigs -- whose consumption is prohibited in both Islam and Judaism.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7405874-35/#post53087276
Do You Eat Pork? (2)

YouTube - Funny blooper

you likey grits?

brinny · Mar 27, 2011

LittleLambofJesus said:
Nothing wakes me up better than the smell of cooking bacon and brewing coffeee

http://www.christianforums.com/t7457416-96/#post54483517

"I'm a practising Muslim. I don't eat pork and I don't drink alcohol but it's just a breeding operation like any other and no Imam has ever reprimanded me for it," he said of raising pigs -- whose consumption is prohibited in both Islam and Judaism.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7405874-35/#post53087276
Do You Eat Pork? (2)

YouTube - Funny blooper

yer makin' me sides hurt

Do you agree that christians should keep the 10 Commandments?

10 commandments for christians or not?

No 10 commandments for Christians

Chriatians should keep the 10 commandments

10 commandments except Sabbath

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