Do you agree that christians should keep the 10 Commandments?

[klatyla]

When Jesus came he gave us the two greatest commandments to live by, which does not abolish the ten commandments but to fullfill it, that the first commandment is to

"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your mind and with your all your soul"

When you love God with everything, we grow to love the things of God and not of the enemy, therefore we are aware of these things which are displeasing to our Father

Secondly

Love your neighbor as yourself

Mark 12:31 No other commandment are greater than these

Romans 13:9 For the commandments against adultery, and murder and coveting, and any other commandment are all summed up in this one commandment ' Love your neighbor as yourself'

Overall, First and foremost to love God above all, then you will love yourself ( to respect yourself, care for yourself and protect yourself) to be able to love others, and its in this that the 10 commandments are fullfilled.

 

[Elder 111]

When Jesus came he gave us the two greatest commandments to live by, which does not abolish the ten commandments but to fullfill it, that the first commandment is to

"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your mind and with your all your soul"

When you love God with everything, we grow to love the things of God and not of the enemy, therefore we are aware of these things which are displeasing to our Father

Secondly

Love your neighbor as yourself

Mark 12:31 No other commandment are greater than these

Romans 13:9 For the commandments against adultery, and murder and coveting, and any other commandment are all summed up in this one commandment ' Love your neighbor as yourself'

Overall, First and foremost to love God above all, then you will love yourself ( to respect yourself, care for yourself and protect yourself) to be able to love others, and its in this that the 10 commandments are fullfilled.

Many state that what Jesus said was new. As to imply that it replaces the ten. But it was neither new nor was it a replacement but a summary.
Deuteronomy 6:4-6



4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

10:

12And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul, 13To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
Leviticus 19:



17Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Is this not what Jesus said? Even of hating your brother in your heart.
God bless.

 

[MamaZ]

Unfortunately, this is what happens when people ignore the law. They become a law unto themselves.

Man cannot live on bread alone but on every word proceeds out of the mouth of God.

exactly and every word in the full context of the scripture. This is why we are to check the spirits to see if they are from God. For we know walking in faith in the love of God that this love cannot be outdone by any law. For Love sums up the law.

 

[MamaZ]

Interesting. 1 maybe supported by the first commandment. Two and three by "Mosaic laws". Three by the Commandments again. Still you maintain that no mention was made of keeping the 10 commandments?
Jesus Himself called us blind.
Food for thought. Would I tell you to do something you are already doing or something need to do? Would I tell you something you already know and understand or something that needs to be made know and to be understood. Something that there is contention with or something that is accepted.

1. Acts 13:14
   But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
   Acts 13:13-15 (in Context) Acts 13 (Whole Chapter)
2. Acts 13:27
   For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.
   Acts 13:26-28 (in Context) Acts 13 (Whole Chapter)
3. Acts 13:42
   And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
   Acts 13:41-43 (in Context) Acts 13 (Whole Chapter)
4. Acts 13:44
   And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
   Acts 13:43-45 (in Context) Acts 13 (Whole Chapter)
5. Acts 15:21
   For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
   Acts 15:20-22 (in Context) Acts 15 (Whole Chapter)
6. Acts 16:13
   And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.
   Acts 16:12-14 (in Context) Acts 16 (Whole Chapter)
7. Acts 17:2
   And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
   Acts 17:1-3 (in Context) Acts 17 (Whole Chapter)
8. Acts 18:4
   And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
   Acts 18:3-5 (in Context) Acts 18 (Whole Chapter

Rev 22:14-15

He went on the sabbath because He went where the people were to preach Christ. For they knew not Christ. This was His goal was to bring people to Jesus. Not to keep the law.

 

[Frogster]

Taking the judgment has nothing to do with removing the law, as a matter of fact it shows that the 10 commandments were and is in force.
Read nest two verses, not 17 only. To fulfill does not mean abolish. Jesus made that point very clear.

ummmmm, not only were u not able to refute that Paul stressed we are sons of Abe, to ward off the sabbath pushing, pork hating people, but do you realize that all you keep doing, is rasing OT verses, that have nothing to do with the NT Church, AFTER THE CROSS...

Give us something already, to wake this thread up please, clear directives to show, how somehow, the gentiles, are to start being under antiquated Jewish food laws, and sabby. You have been shown over and over, that the law was one, and no one did, or can keep it anyway..

Who got the laws?


Psalm 147:19 He declares his word to Jacob,his statutes and rules to Israel.20 He has not dealt thus with any other nation;they do not know his rules.
Praise the LORD!

 

[Frogster]

Interesting. 1 maybe supported by the first commandment. Two and three by "Mosaic laws". Three by the Commandments again. Still you maintain that no mention was made of keeping the 10 commandments?
Jesus Himself called us blind.
Food for thought. Would I tell you to do something you are already doing or something need to do? Would I tell you something you already know and understand or something that needs to be made know and to be understood. Something that there is contention with or something that is accepted.

1. Acts 13:14
   But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
   Acts 13:13-15 (in Context) Acts 13 (Whole Chapter)
2. Acts 13:27
   For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.
   Acts 13:26-28 (in Context) Acts 13 (Whole Chapter)
3. Acts 13:42
   And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
   Acts 13:41-43 (in Context) Acts 13 (Whole Chapter)
4. Acts 13:44
   And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
   Acts 13:43-45 (in Context) Acts 13 (Whole Chapter)
5. Acts 15:21
   For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
   Acts 15:20-22 (in Context) Acts 15 (Whole Chapter)
6. Acts 16:13
   And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.
   Acts 16:12-14 (in Context) Acts 16 (Whole Chapter)
7. Acts 17:2
   And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
   Acts 17:1-3 (in Context) Acts 17 (Whole Chapter)
8. Acts 18:4
   And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
   Acts 18:3-5 (in Context) Acts 18 (Whole Chapter

Rev 22:14-15

Yes, reasoned to preach Christ..every one of those verses shows evangelism....debating...does this sound like a happy day at Sabbath?


Why do you think the sysnagogue leaders beat him at other synagogues 5 times, 40 minus one, was a leagal punishment, allowed by the synagogue leader.



Acts 13:39 and by him everyone who believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the law of Moses. 40 Beware, therefore, lest what is said in the Prophets should come about:

41 “‘Look, you scoffers,
be astounded and perish;for I am doing a work in your days,
a work that you will not believe, even if one tells it to you.’”

 

[Rajni]

[FONT=&quot]Taking the judgment has nothing to do with removing the law, as a matter of fact it shows that the 10 commandments were and is in force.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Taking the judgment has to do with your previous question in post [/FONT]#[FONT=&quot]324[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]where you had specifically asked, “[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Absolutely, no law no transgression no sin. How then can God Judge and condemn sinners?[/FONT][FONT=&quot]”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Read nest two verses, not 17 only. To fulfill does not mean abolish. Jesus made that point very clear. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Jesus came to fulfill the Law. It wasn’t abolished until after His sacrifice, by which He canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross [/FONT][FONT=&quot](Colossians 2:14). By the time Paul spoke of it, it had been officially abolished (Eph 2:15, Colossians 2:14).[/FONT]

 

[from scratch]

Many state that what Jesus said was new. As to imply that it replaces the ten. But it was neither new nor was it a replacement but a summary.
Deuteronomy 6:4-6



4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

10:

12And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul, 13To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
Leviticus 19:



17Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Is this not what Jesus said? Even of hating your brother in your heart.
God bless.

After reading the parable of the good samaritian I wonder what the Jews really thought the above meant? They even had to ask what a neighbor was.

 

[Elder 111]

He went on the sabbath because He went where the people were to preach Christ. For they knew not Christ. This was His goal was to bring people to Jesus. Not to keep the law.

Really? So why go back every Sabbath? Why go to the gentles on Sabbath?

 

[Frogster]

Really? So why go back every Sabbath? Why go to the gentles on Sabbath?

To preach, as I have shown you. God fearers were not law compliant, that is why they were not called proselytes, they just acknowledged the monotheistic God of the Jews.

If you wanted to preach, would you go to a crowd, or wait till Wednesday to preach?

Acts 13:5
When they arrived at Salamis, they proclaimed the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews. And they had John to assist them.


If Paul preached law, would they stone him for that?

 

[sheina]

To preach, as I have shown you. God fearers were not law compliant, that is why they were not called proselytes, they just acknowledged the monotheistic God of the Jews.

Cornelius was a God fearer:

Acts 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,

Acts 10:2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.

If you wanted to preach, would you go to a crowd, or wait till Wednesday to preach?

Acts 13:5
When they arrived at Salamis, they proclaimed the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews. And they had John to assist them.

The Lord opens the doors to preach to the unsaved...our responsibility is to OBEY the Lord's leading.

If Paul preached law, would they stone him for that?

The Jews stoned Paul for preaching the Gospel...not the law.

 

[MamaZ]

Really? So why go back every Sabbath? Why go to the gentles on Sabbath?

To preach Christ maybe???? Since He was an Apostle and sent to preach Christ and Him crucified. Only makes sense to me. The law was nailed to the cross for those who are in Christ. Now we have our being in Him. This is why it is Christ in us the hope of Glory.

 

[Elder 111]

Yes, reasoned to preach Christ..every one of those verses shows evangelism....debating...does this sound like a happy day at Sabbath?


Why do you think the sysnagogue leaders beat him at other synagogues 5 times, 40 minus one, was a leagal punishment, allowed by the synagogue leader.



Acts 13:39 and by him everyone who believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the law of Moses. 40 Beware, therefore, lest what is said in the Prophets should come about:

41 “‘Look, you scoffers,
be astounded and perish;for I am doing a work in your days,
a work that you will not believe, even if one tells it to you.’”

Nice of you to quote the scripture, but I have found that you have continue to do so biasedly. The context of the above quote in no way deny the 10 commandments nor the Sabbath in particular but contrarily supports it. That is why no text can point to the ten commandments or the Sabbath in the NT. You reject then all. Now explain to us all how you get this context denying the commandments or the Sabbath?
39And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
40Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;
41Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.
42And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
43Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
44And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
45But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming.
46Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
47For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.
48And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
49And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region.
50But the Jews stirred up the devout and honourable women, and the chief men of the city, and raised persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them out of their coasts.
51But they shook off the dust of their feet against them, and came unto Iconium.
52And the disciples were filled with joy, and with the Holy Ghost.

 

[Elder 111]

[FONT=&quot]Taking the judgment has to do with your previous question in post [/FONT]#[FONT=&quot]324[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]where you had specifically asked, “[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Absolutely, no law no transgression no sin. How then can God Judge and condemn sinners?[/FONT][FONT=&quot]”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Jesus came to fulfill the Law. It wasn’t abolished until after His sacrifice, by which He canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross [/FONT][FONT=&quot](Colossians 2:14). By the time Paul spoke of it, it had been officially abolished (Eph 2:15, Colossians 2:14).[/FONT]

Who made or is making the mistake then? You, Jesus or Paul? Jesus said it will never change until earth be passed away.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Has heaven Pass? Has earth passed? Then how can anything be moved from the law? He did not say at His sacrifice did He? He did not say after His sacrifice did He?
How can we ignore clear statements like this, and by no one else but Jesus?

 

[Elder 111]

To preach, as I have shown you. God fearers were not law compliant, that is why they were not called proselytes, they just acknowledged the monotheistic God of the Jews.

If you wanted to preach, would you go to a crowd, or wait till Wednesday to preach?

Acts 13:5
When they arrived at Salamis, they proclaimed the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews. And they had John to assist them.


If Paul preached law, would they stone him for that?

Did Jesus preach law? He died.

 

[Elder 111]

To preach Christ maybe???? Since He was an Apostle and sent to preach Christ and Him crucified. Only makes sense to me. The law was nailed to the cross for those who are in Christ. Now we have our being in Him. This is why it is Christ in us the hope of Glory.

There are seven days in a week. Why Sabbath? Why to Gentles on the Sabbath? You may argue for the Jews on the Sabbath but why the Gentle that you say Paul did not want the Sabbath for?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Who made or is making the mistake then? You, Jesus or Paul? Jesus said it will never change until earth be passed away.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Has heaven Pass? Has earth passed? Then how can anything be moved from the law? He did not say at His sacrifice did He? He did not say after His sacrifice did He?
How can we ignore clear statements like this, and by no one else but Jesus?

The unbelieving Jews of today ask the same question

Matthew 5:18 "For amen I am saying to ye, till ever may-be-passing-away the heaven and the land, iota one or one jot/horn not no may be passing away from the Law, till ever all may be becoming/genhtai <1096> (5638)"
[Isaiah 65:17,18/Reve 16:7/21:6]

Reve 16:17 and the seventh Messenger pours out the bowl of him into the air, and came out great voice from the Sanctuary of the heaven from the throne saying "it has become"/gegonen <1096> (5754).
[Reve 21:6]

 

[MamaZ]

There are seven days in a week. Why Sabbath? Why to Gentles on the Sabbath? You may argue for the Jews on the Sabbath but why the Gentle that you say Paul did not want the Sabbath for?

Why not the syngagogs? This is where the people gathered. In Christ there is neither gentile nor jew. For in Christ we are one body not according to the law but by His Spirit through His blood. So I don't believe I am understanding what you mean. Paul never preached to keep the sabbath. Show me where Paul preached that the sabbath was to be kept and just exactly how was the sabbath to be kept according to Paul?

 

[Frogster]

If you don't take Jesus' Grace Expressway you'll hit every light in Lawtown.

good one, and the other post 2, you get a star today!

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[Frogster]

Cornelius was a God fearer:

Acts 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,

Acts 10:2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.

The Lord opens the doors to preach to the unsaved...our responsibility is to OBEY the Lord's leading.

The Jews stoned Paul for preaching the Gospel...not the law.

You get a star also.

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