Do you accept evolution as a valid scientific theory?

[Dannager]

You are better qualified than me to guess on something you have never seen.

The past is gone and theory is what biased people make of the past when they go to work

Look, if you want to think of scientific observation as biased, then go ahead. You can assume a giant scientific community conspiract cover-up process all you want - no one can convince you otherwise so no one will try. When you're ready to listen, then we'll talk.

I know one thing, a lot of the species you need to be extinct are not extinct, like the Coelacanth.

The coelacanth (pronounced see-la-kanth) is a prehistoric species of fish, once presumed to be extinct, but when rediscovered in the 1930s, unevolved for 300 million years, was almost fished to extinction by man's desperation to study and collect.

It's a good thing evolution doesn't require that the coelacanth be extinct, then.

 

[notto]

You are better qualified than me to guess on something you have never seen.

Back to the 'were you there' thing. The last feeble attempt by creationists. Do you understand how silly that sounds?

I know one thing, a lot of the species you need to be extinct are not extinct, like the Coelacanth.

What do you mean 'need' to be extinct. When you say 'a lot', exactly what do you mean? How many? What ones?

The coelacanth (pronounced see-la-kanth) is a prehistoric species of fish, once presumed to be extinct, but when rediscovered in the 1930s, unevolved for 300 million years, was almost fished to extinction by man's desperation to study and collect.

You do realize that the living speies of coelacanth is not the same species that we find in the fossil record. Again, evolution has happened. The coelacanth is just another example of that. The species that exists in the fossil record IS extinct. Care to try again?

 

[shinbits]

Nothing is ever proven in science. As an ex-geologist you should know that. .

Gravity. As an ex-fourth grader you should know that.

 

[Dannager]

Gravity. As an ex-fourth grader you should know that.

The current theory of gravity is unproven.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity#Einstein.27s_theory_of_gravitation

It was a good try, though. Just goes to show you - there are reasons for going to school beyond 4th grade.

 

[lismore]

Back to the 'were you there' thing. The last feeble attempt by creationists. Do you understand how silly that sounds?
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No, but not as silly as when you make a behind of it. Drawing pictures of ape men from a pigs tooth

Not acting without evidence is wise, you should try it.

What do you mean 'need' to be extinct. When you say 'a lot', exactly what do you mean? How many? What ones?

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Well the ones that are still alive . Look 'em up if you like

You do realize that the living speies of coelacanth is not the same species that we find in the fossil record. Again, evolution has happened. The coelacanth is just another example of that. The species that exists in the fossil record IS extinct. Care to try again?

No, enlighten me on this one please

 

[shinbits]

The current theory of gravity is unproven.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity#Einstein.27s_theory_of_gravitation

It was a good try, though. Just goes to show you - there are reasons for going to school beyond 4th grade.

Excuse me......go find a twelve story building, and slide head first out of a window.

Then come tell me about.

 

[Dannager]

Excuse me......go find a twelve story building, and slide head first out of a window.

Then come tell me about.

Oh, yes, certainly there is an unseen force acting upon objects that causes them to move gradually towards massive objects. This is an observed fact. However, the explanation behind attraction (explanations in science are called theories) is never proven - it is simply proposed and stands until it is disproven (and subsequently replaced by the theory that disproved it).

You do know what the difference between theory and fact are, right?

EDIT: And you did read that link, right? The one that talks about how there are and have been multiple theories of gravity? And how one of them (Einstein's) continues to be tested today?

 

[lismore]

Excuse me......go find a twelve story building, and slide head first out of a window.

Then come tell me about.

Thats a good way to put it

 

[Dannager]

Thats a good way to put it

If by "a good way" you mean "an exceedingly inaccurate, missing-the-point way".

 

[lismore]

If by "a good way" you mean "an exceedingly inaccurate, missing-the-point way".

No I mean you didnt put it to the test type.

You still havent told me how the coelacanth evolved, how the fossils are different?

 

[Dannager]

No I mean you didnt put it to the test type.

Man, what?

 

[notto]

No, enlighten me on this one please

Look it up if you like

http://www.talkorigins.org

 

[lismore]

Look it up if you like

http://www.talkorigins.org

Thats the site thats no use you said?

Explain it to me notto, plz.

Does it swim backwards?

 

[lismore]

Man, what?

You told the person there was no gravity, he said go delve outta window. You didnt answer

 

[Dannager]

Thats the site thats no use you said?

Explain it to me notto, plz.

Does it swim backwards?

Okay, look: you could have followed his advice and searched for it on your own. It literally took me three seconds to find. I clicked the search link, typed in 'coelacanth' and clicked on the top result. Here it is: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB930_1.html.

Just in case you're still not feeling energetic enough to click on a link, I'll quote the important part for you.

The modern coelacanth is Latimeria chalumnae, in the family Latimeriidae. Fossil coelacanths are in other families, mostly Coelacanthidae, and are significantly different in that they are smaller and lack certain internal structures. Latimeria has no fossil record, so it cannot be a "living fossil."

 

[Dannager]

You told the person there was no gravity

No, I didn't.

 

[lismore]

Okay, look: you could have followed his advice and searched for it on your own. It literally took me three seconds to find. I clicked the search link, typed in 'coelacanth' and clicked on the top result. Here it is: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB930_1.html.

Just in case you're still not feeling energetic enough to click on a link, I'll quote the important part for you.

So In 300 million years it got bigger? Not much ammunition for flying squirrels there......

How do you know the specimen wasnt a juvenile?


BTW how can you tell whats inside a fossil?

 

[Numenor]

Excuse me......go find a twelve story building, and slide head first out of a window.

Then come tell me about.

He's talking about the theory behind the observations, not the observations themselves.

 

[Dannager]

So In 300 million years it got bigger? Not much ammunition for flying squirrels there......

How do you know the specimen wasnt a juvenile?


BTW how can you tell whats inside a fossil?

Ladies and gentlemen, that is the oh-so-quiet sound of goalposts being moved.

 

[shinbits]

The current theory of gravity is unproven.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity...of_gravitation

It was a good try, though. Just goes to show you - there are reasons for going to school beyond 4th grade.

Definition of a Law:

1. A natural phenomenon that has been proven to occur invariably whenever certain conditions are met. 2. A formal statement describing such a phenomenon and the conditions under which it occurs. Also called law.
college.hmco.com/geology/resources/geologylink/glossary/s.html

Seems like Newton's Law of Gravity, is in fact, proven.

Evolutionists say the darndest things.