Do we humans disprove evolution?

[klutedavid]

You make about a dozen real decisions per day, tops. The rest of the time, you're on autopilot.

I am never on autopilot, only as a child. I have to think about everything, everyday.

 

[klutedavid]

If it makes you feel better about yourself, you can live your life thinking you're logical and every non-human is instinct-driven.

I cannot see people as loving towards others. I have seen intense hatred of others, fighting, domestic violence, self ambition. I have seen wars, genocide, trade sanctions, poverty. I cannot recall ever observing the taxation department loving others.

 

[SelfSim]

I cannot see people as loving towards others. I have seen intense hatred of others, fighting, domestic violence, self ambition. I have seen wars, genocide, trade sanctions, poverty. I cannot recall ever observing the taxation department loving others.

Ever had kids?

 

[Nithavela]

I am never on autopilot, only as a child. I have to think about everything, everyday.

That must be a terribly hard existence. You have my sympathy.

 

[klutedavid]

Ever had kids?

No. But I was once a kid. School was a place of suffering for those that were bullied. I have seen so many fights during school that I was shocked. The teenage years is where the trouble really starts.

Young teen girls are the worst according to the experts.

 

[klutedavid]

That must be a terribly hard existence. You have my sympathy.

I would rather have your money. Mwhaaaa.

 

[Nithavela]

I would rather have your money. Mwhaaaa.

Greed is one of my least favourite sins.

 

[klutedavid]

Greed is one of my least favourite sins.

I don't believe that. You are a kind, generous person. Probably struggling financially because of your intense generosity towards others.

 

[Nithavela]

I don't believe that. You are a kind, generous person. Probably struggling financially because of your intense generosity towards others.

What are you even talking about?

 

[SelfSim]

No. But I was once a kid. School was a place of suffering for those that were bullied. I have seen so many fights during school that I was shocked. The teenage years is where the trouble really starts.

Its different when you're a parent. Life tends to make more sense. Can't prove any of that though ..

Young teen girls are the worst according to the experts.

The experts aren't experts.

 

[klutedavid]

What are you even talking about?

That trait of humanity, loving others. If our society displays a love for each other, then I have yet to observe this trait. Certainly not a political trait.

 

[klutedavid]

Its different when you're a parent. Life tends to make more sense. Can't prove any of that though ..
The experts aren't experts.

So you would disagree with them. Young girls are not tribal and ferocious towards other girls. That don't meet the mark that they set?

 

[Nithavela]

That trait of humanity, loving others. If our society displays a love for each other, then I have yet to observe this trait. Certainly not a political trait.

I think that you see in others what you are yourself.

 

[klutedavid]

I think that you see in others what you are yourself.

Correct. A very good reply. That is the disturbing aspect of seeing through others, your really seeing yourself more accurately. It is very hard to accept but true.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

How come the human race does not display these traits?

All I see is obsessional self interest, only for a profit, I'm busy, look at me. As long as your nice to me, then I will be nice to you. Conditional love only when there is a return on that love.

I thought that humanity has a very dark side which is riddled through human history.

I cannot see a love for others, as being an evident trait in human behavior.

There seems to be a blindness to the true reality of our human nature.

All that shows is that you have a very narrow scope of looking at humanity.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I am never on autopilot, only as a child. I have to think about everything, everyday.

Do you really have to think about the full on movements of your legs and feet as you walk, or your arms and hands as you do a task like making a cup of coffee which you have probably done hundreds of times before?

I'll be honest, at this point, you seem to be arguing solely for the sake of arguing.

 

[SelfSim]

So you would disagree with them. Young girls are not tribal and ferocious towards other girls. That don't meet the mark that they set?

Kids' behaviours (no matter the sex) can be shaped during their 'pliable' years. Constant reinforcement (and attention) during the early years, I think, guides the behaviours during the teens. Genetic pre-dispositional behaviours also persist.

I think love for kids, develops when a parent experiences the responsibility highlighted by a child's clear dependency (in multiple ways) on a parent's coaching skills, (IMHO).
Can't prove any of that mind you .. Oh .. and 'experts' may not have acquired psychology accumen (and learning skills) themselves, and therefore are unable to 'pass them on to' their offspring.

 

[klutedavid]

All that shows is that you have a very narrow scope of looking at humanity.

So you believe politicians and lawyers are serving you and not themselves?

 

[klutedavid]

Kids' behaviours (no matter the sex) can be shaped during their 'pliable' years. Constant reinforcement (and attention) during the early years, I think, guides the behaviours during the teens. Genetic pre-dispositional behaviours also persist.

I think love for kids, develops when a parent experiences the responsibility highlighted by a child's clear dependency (in multiple ways) on a parent's coaching skills, (IMHO).
Can't prove any of that mind you .. Oh .. and 'experts' may not have acquired psychology accumen (and learning skills) themselves, and therfore can't 'pass them on to' their offspring.

I understand what you are saying and I have observed that some parents. Are very good at raising their offspring. Not sure what percentage of parents apply that kind of love towards their offspring.

Treating your family members with a form of love is somewhat different. To loving others outside of the family unit. I think we are talking more about a social structure, society in general.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

So you believe politicians and lawyers are serving you and not themselves?

Ah, but you're mistaking politicians and lawyers, an absolutely tiny subset of the world population, for the broader scope of humanity. The minority does not represent the whole.
"Any man who judges by the group is a pea-wit. You take men one at a time." to quote Private Buster Kilrain from the 1993 film, Gettysburg.