Do we have to keep the commandments in order to go to heaven?

[Frogster]

Don't complicate it all one has to do is what the word says

Rom 10:9-10

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
KJV

 

[Frogster]

Romans 8:21-26 also clearly states that we are justified by faith, apart from the law.

But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of His blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—He did it to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus." (emphasis added)

In my previous post, I also posted other Scriptures teaching that we are justified by faith, not by the law.

 

[Frogster]

What was written on stone, that was set aside, not permanent?

The 10!

7 Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses' face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? 9 For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory. 10 Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of the glory that surpasses it. 11 For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory.

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

What was written on stone, that was set aside, not permanent?

The 10!

7 Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses' face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? 9 For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory. 10 Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of the glory that surpasses it. 11 For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory.

Amen Frogster! Scripture does teach that we are not under the law, but under the grace of God.

Romans 6:14 - "For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace."

John 1:17 - "For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ."

Romans 8:3-4 - "For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so He condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit."

 

[agua]

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
(1Jn 5:2-3 KJV)



Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
(Mat 22:37-40 KJV)

If you keep these 2 commands you will be keeping the 10.

 

[mbassadoor]

Young's Literal Ephesians 2:8 for by grace ye are having been saved, through faith, and this not of you -- of God the gift,
9 not of works, that no one may boast;

Salvation is of GOD, not works [keeping commandents]. Good works FOLLOW Salvation.

 

[sungaunga]

If so, please show scripture. Thanks

First, welcome to the forum! Seeing many new faces lately. To answer your question. No. No one can keep the commandments the way they were meant to be kept, perfectly.

The real question you should be asking yourself is, do I love the commandments of God? Then ask what you are doing about it. It is my belief that all who are born again long after the things of God.

1 John goes as far as saying this. By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. Rmemeber that Scripture as a whole teaches that by the works of the Law no man shall be saved. So what does John mean here? John is emphasizing the fact that those genuinely born again display the habit of obedience.

Is it the burning desire of your heart to please Him, know Him and love Him?

 

[sungaunga]

i just realized i've been repeating what many have already been saying lol. You're in good company whitesquaw

 

[Frogster]

Amen Frogster! Scripture does teach that we are not under the law, but under the grace of God.

Romans 6:14 - "For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace."

John 1:17 - "For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ."

Romans 8:3-4 - "For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so He condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit."

I hear ya, and in galatians, they were running well, until the law people came, they ruined everything. 5;7.

Then we see in 5, the church started competing, and devouring one another, classic symptoms of legalistic churches, under law.

 

[Frogster]

Interesting how in gal 3 and 4, paul refered to law life, as for children.

4:1 I mean that the heir, as long as he is a child, is no different from a slave, though he is the owner of everything, 2 but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by his father. 3 In the same way we also, when we were children, were enslaved to the elementary principles of the world.

 

[Frogster]

Romans 8:21-26 also clearly states that we are justified by faith, apart from the law.

But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of His blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—He did it to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus." (emphasis added)

In my previous post, I also posted other Scriptures teaching that we are justified by faith, not by the law.

Exactly...good post!

When people seek law righteousness, they make the cross of no effect.

In gal 3;1 Paul said, they knew the cross, clear as day, yet got foolishly under law, which shows the law is not the cross, by way of juxtaposition.

 

[God's Word]

Yes.

 

[Kaitlin08]

Yes.
Revelation 22:15 NASB Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

Yes.
Revelation 22:15 NASB Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.

Why do you believe this verse means yes we are to keep the Ten Commandments in order to get into heaven? What do you think of the Scriptures Frogster and I have quoted previously in this thread? If I may ask, what is your understanding of them?

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

Yes.

If I may ask, why do you believe this?

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

RibI,

There have been many Scriptures cited in previous posts that teach we are justified by faith, not by the law.

I know Frogster and several others have also cited Scripture about justification by faith, not by works.

I have posted quite a few in my post here and in another post I cited Romans 8: 21-26.

"But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of His blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—He did it to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus." (emphasis added)

If I may ask, what is your understanding of these Scriptures? Do you agree or disagree?

 

[SoldierOfSoul]

You do not try and keep the commandments to be saved, you do it because you are.

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

You do not try and keep the commandments to be saved, you do it because you are.

I believe if you keep the two greatest Commandments, you will fulfill the others.

Jesus said to him, “ ‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.” (Matthew 22:37-40)

 

[RibI]

You do not try and keep the commandments to be saved, you do it because you are.

No. I think, therefore I are.

 

[Frogster]

RibI,

There have been many Scriptures cited in previous posts that teach we are justified by faith, not by the law.

I know Frogster and several others have also cited Scripture about justification by faith, not by works.

I have posted quite a few in my post here and in another post I cited Romans 8: 21-26.

"But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of His blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—He did it to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus." (emphasis added)

If I may ask, what is your understanding of these Scriptures? Do you agree or disagree?

there are people on the forum, that do not think we are saved yet, they are waiting for the last trumpet.

Yes, no one saved by law, it works wrath, and is the strength of sin. 1 cor 15;56.