do unto others

[Allister]

Isn't the saying 'do unto overs what you would have them do unto you' inherently flawed?

any ideas?

 

[Alencon]

Isn't the saying 'do unto overs what you would have them do unto you' inherently flawed?

any ideas?

Hillel put it a better way.

"What is hateful to thyself do not do to another. That is the whole Law, the rest is Commentary."

Putting it this way, and avoiding you doing something that you would like but they would hate, works a little better.

 

[repentandbelieve]

Isn't the saying 'do unto overs what you would have them do unto you' inherently flawed?

any ideas?

How so?

 

[Nae]

How so?

I like being whacked on the head with a wet fish......now i'm going to do the same to other people.

Nae

 

[kedaman]

I like being whacked on the head with a wet fish......now i'm going to do the same to other people.

Nae

I don't like being whacked on the head with a wet fish, therefore you would be doing something that I don't like to me, therefore you would be violating the golden rule.

 

[Madcoil]

You could whack me with it though. I love wet fish.

 

[Nae]

You could whack me with it though. I love wet fish.

 

[Nae]

I don't like being whacked on the head with a wet fish, therefore you would be doing something that I don't like to me, therefore you would be violating the golden rule.

But i would have it done to me, so therefore i would do it to others.
Or am i getting it wrong?
Must be all the fish whacking.

Nae

 

[Blackmarch]

Isn't the saying 'do unto overs what you would have them do unto you' inherently flawed?

any ideas?

if you mean that by misspelling others as overs then it's flawed ... What did you have in mind exactly?



Before they do unto you-survival of the fittest.

as has been done unto you- eye for an eye; Justice

as you would have done unto you- honorable

 

[repentandbelieve]

I like being whacked on the head with a wet fish......now i'm going to do the same to other people.

Nae

only others who also like being whacked on the head wth a wet fish.

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

only others who also like being whacked on the head wth a wet fish.

But that isn't the saying. It's not "Do unto others as you would have them do to you... if they would want you to."

So yes, I think that statement is flawed.

 

[Blackmarch]

only others who also like being whacked on the head wth a wet fish.

this one would like to see a person whack me with a wet fish, or at least try (who knows, maybe one will get a free dinner)

 

[Ledifni]

I like being whacked on the head with a wet fish......now i'm going to do the same to other people.

Nae

That is according to the letter of the Golden Rule but not the spirit. Perhaps the letter should be changed to match the spirit better? I'm not sure how it could be, but the spirit of the Golden Rule is based on empathy.

That is, it is not enough to do unto others exactly what you like done to you. Instead, you should do unto others as you would have them do unto you if you were in their position. In other words, a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] may enjoy pain, but it is still wrong for him to inflict pain on someone who does not enjoy it. To understand and follow the Golden Rule and its variations, it is necessary to empathize with your fellow man so that you understand what he feels when you do something to him -- not just what you would feel if he did the same to you.

 

[GaelSong]

good post. This golden rule calls for compassion. If I don't like it I don't do it to others.

 

[lijeb]

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" implies "if you were in their shoes"

 

[lijeb]

Context makes it more meaningful

27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the [one] cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not [to take thy] coat also.
30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask [them] not again.
31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34 And if ye lend [to them] of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and [to] the evil.
36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

 

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* Runs into the room with a wet sea bass *

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

This may be the funniest thread derailment ever!