Do scientists believe in unicorns?

[Radrook]

I don't know, my life was the result of some... debauchery.

Equivocation

 

[PsychoSarah]

Equivocation

It was partially a jest, because you said that unrepentant sinning destroys life, and I am a product of my mother's rather... ill-advised college sex life. I'm not being a prude and suggesting that sex at all during the college years is bad, but there are particular qualities hers had that made it particularly... sinful? I am not going to share the details, because it isn't my right to share them.

However, there are plenty of sinful people that have had great lives that were also long lives that never had significant negative consequences for their actions. Benjamin Franklin comes to mind.

 

[Radrook]

It was partially a jest, because you said that unrepentant sinning destroys life, and I am a product of my mother's rather... ill-advised college sex life. I'm not being a prude and suggesting that sex at all during the college years is bad, but there are particular qualities hers had that made it particularly... sinful? I am not going to share the details, because it isn't my right to share them.

However, there are plenty of sinful people that have had great lives that were also long lives that never had significant negative consequences for their actions. Benjamin Franklin comes to mind.

What I meant was that unrepentant sinning leads to the penalty of eternal death. Eternal life can only be attained if we accept the Ransom sacrifice, repent of our sins and try to live a Christian life in order to show our appreciation.

Yes, what you say is very true. Ironically, sometimes persons who live as they wish and pay little heed to what the Bible says will prosper while those who strive to do things according to the Bible or any other standard of strict morality wither.
There are Bible verses which address this issue and are very comforting to those who find themselves in such a trying situation.

Yes I am aware of Ben Franklin's gallivanting antics in relation to the fair sex. Quite a feisty fellow!

LOL!

BTW
I thought you had misunderstood. Thanks for the explanation.

 

[PsychoSarah]

What I meant was that unrepentant sinning leads to the penalty of eternal death.

Just going to mention that, this type of commentary doesn't phase people that don't believe in an afterlife. It also won't phase believers that think of themselves as destined to have a good afterlife because of their faith, so there is really no point in saying stuff like this.

Eternal life can only be attained if we accept the Ransom sacrifice, repent of our sins and try to live a Christian life in order to show our appreciation.

You have any idea how weird that ultimatum sounds to a nonbeliever? Also, one cannot force oneself to believe something like that. I have been trying to believe for nearly 8 years now. I am still trying. How fair is it for people to be judged on something they can't consciously choose at will?

Yes, what you say is very true. Ironically, sometimes persons who live as they wish and pay little heed to what the Bible says will prosper while those who strive to do things according to the Bible or any other standard of strict morality wither.

It's not really that ironic to a nonbeliever such as myself. It makes sense that some people would end up leaving their fortunes to dirtbags that would use it to party into their 80s. It makes even more sense that bad things would happen to good people. Karma doesn't exist. Unless the activities are illegal or physically hurt one's body, there is no reason to think acting like a butthole one's whole life will make that life shorter.

There are Bible verses which address this issue and are very comforting to those who find themselves in such a trying situation.

I can't fathom how "everything happens for a reason" is comforting to anyone. I'd find it even more depressing if some deity marked me as having to have a life filled with misfortune for some greater purpose; it'd make it seem inescapable and unsolvable. How disturbing to think, that in a deity's plan, a classmate of mine would have to shoot his brains out in front of his best friend at the age of 16. She's scarred for life now.

Yes I am aware of Ben Franklin's gallivanting antics in relation to the fair sex. Quite a feisty fellow!

I'm personally not a fan of him because of his lifestyle. I find him so deplorable in that regard, I can't even appreciate him for his positive contributions that, in the long run, mattered more. I recognize my bias, but it persisteth.

LOL!

BTW
I thought you had misunderstood. Thanks for the explanation.

Nah, although misunderstandings seem to have become an epidemic on this site.

 

[GrimKingGrim]

There's no evidence to suggest that they exist, so, no not really.

 

[TLK Valentine]

It's not science at all, it's corrupt human nature.

A whole assumed species of hominids was based on a pig's tooth...

And who corrected the mistake? Oh, that's right -- humans.

 

[TLK Valentine]

So you're buying the Hallmark version of what a unicorn looks like?

If so, do you also buy into their version of cherubim as being cute little babies, posing for their picture?

Or do you accept the Rose is Rose version of the cherub ... one of God's elite fighting angels?

One would think that if God wanted a cute little baby to be an elite fighter, they would be.

 

[AV1611VET]

One would think that if God wanted a cute little baby to be an elite fighter, they would be.

Please remove that picture from my quote.

It implies I believe rhinoceroses could be unicorns.

Thank you.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Please remove that picture from my quote.

It implies I believe rhinoceroses could be unicorns.

Thank you.

Not until you explain why they're not. (And probably, not even then)

 

[PsychoSarah]

Please remove that picture from my quote.

It implies I believe rhinoceroses could be unicorns.

Thank you.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me that a rhino could be the source of unicorn sightings. Seen from a distance, they can look like horses with one horn.

 

[pshun2404]

just for info purposes the biblical use of the term refers to the Auroch (a wild type of bull/steer)

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Read Genesis 3, A & E were tempted by the serpent.

That's an excuse, like blaming a computer game because you went out and killed 20 people. And the serpent did NOT tempt Adam, he tempted Eve. Adam made a full conscious choice to disobey - which is why all blame falls upon Adam. I understand his choice and reason (because of his lack of faith), but that's another post in and of itself.

God confused the languages, remember?

Because of man's choice.

Genesis 11:4 "otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

They were quite aware of God's command to multiply and fill the earth, but instead chose to disobey God and stay together in one place. They brought it upon themselves. Anything else is just another excuse.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Sorry, but he was a Christian. You can't say who and who is not a Christian, in fact if he was a member here you would have to acknowledge that he was a Christian by the rules of this forum.

People can say what they like - but the AntiChrist is also going to claim he is a Christian. Won't make it any more so than a Pope claiming to be a Christian and then going out and killing people because they don't share his viewpoint. So NOT Christian like it's downright pathetic that anyone would even dare to claim he was.

It must be nice to have a religion where anyone that does something that you disagree with is no longer a member of your religion. Of course that ultimately reduces the members in your religion to only one.

Sort of like in evolution where if you don't agree with the majority view you aren't part of the group?????

Shame on you! You know better than this. You are alluding to your failed claim that all of the Darwin's finches interbreed. You were only able to show that some of them do. No one is saying that the people involved in that work were not scientists. Of course your misinterpretation of their work shows that you are not a scientist.

The only shame is the fact you refuse to accept the DNA evidence so you can claim anything you like.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-31425720

"They sequenced the genomes of multiple individuals from all 15 species of Darwin's finches, one of which inhabits the rather more distant Cocos Island, along with two related bird species that live on the South American mainland and the West Indies......The study also revealed a surprisingly large amount of "gene flow" between the branches of the family. This indicates that the species have continued to interbreed or hybridise, after diversifying when they first arrived on the islands."

Only an evolutionist would ignore the DNA evidence in order to keep his incorrect beliefs alive. But if that's all you got, ignoring your own DNA evidence ro keep your faith alive, then I guess that's all you got.

 

[TLK Valentine]

That's an excuse, like blaming a computer game because you went out and killed 20 people. And the serpent did NOT tempt Adam, he tempted Eve. Adam made a full conscious choice to disobey - which is why all blame falls upon Adam. I understand his choice and reason (because of his lack of faith), but that's another post in and of itself.

The excuse worked -- Eve and the serpent were also punished.

 

[Hieronymus]

That's an excuse,

No, it is a cause:
Genesis 3:1-6.
In verse 2 and 3 Eve politely declines, explaining the law God gave about this tree.
And then the serpent uses a lie to persuade her.
It is not only temptation, it is also deception.
The serpent told lies.
The sorry thing is, they were allowed to eat from the Tree of Life..
Genesis 3 starts with: "Now the serpent ..."
He obviously plays an important part in Genesis 3.

like blaming a computer game because you went out and killed 20 people. And the serpent did NOT tempt Adam, he tempted Eve. Adam made a full conscious choice to disobey - which is why all blame falls upon Adam.

Maybe Adam believed the serpent too.
But Adam was given dominion, Adam had the responsibility.

I understand his choice and reason (because of his lack of faith), but that's another post in and of itself.

Well, you know, Adam was only human...
We'll never know if Adam would have eaten form the forbidden tree if there was no serpent to persuade him.
Either way, Adam broke the law, and they gained knowledge that was not meant for them.
Got kicked out of Paradise to live on a cursed planet...

 

[Subduction Zone]

People can say what they like - but the AntiChrist is also going to claim he is a Christian. Won't make it any more so than a Pope claiming to be a Christian and then going out and killing people because they don't share his viewpoint. So NOT Christian like it's downright pathetic that anyone would even dare to claim he was.

This is merely an example of deep denial. One could also say that Muslim terrorists are "not real Muslims". This sort of weak excuses only convinces other Kool Aid drinkers. Like it or not the Pope is a Christian, just as Muslim terrorists are Muslims.

Sort of like in evolution where if you don't agree with the majority view you aren't part of the group?????

No, there are varying views on how evolution occurred. Any scientist that has published peer reviewed papers on the subject can be said to be an "evolutionist".

The only shame is the fact you refuse to accept the DNA evidence so you can claim anything you like.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-31425720

"They sequenced the genomes of multiple individuals from all 15 species of Darwin's finches, one of which inhabits the rather more distant Cocos Island, along with two related bird species that live on the South American mainland and the West Indies......The study also revealed a surprisingly large amount of "gene flow" between the branches of the family. This indicates that the species have continued to interbreed or hybridise, after diversifying when they first arrived on the islands."

Sorry, we have been over this failed argument countless times. This quote does not say that they can all interbreed. It is amazing that any person cannot understand that.

Only an evolutionist would ignore the DNA evidence in order to keep his incorrect beliefs alive. But if that's all you got, ignoring your own DNA evidence ro keep your faith alive, then I guess that's all you got.

The DNA evidence screams that all life evolved. I have a helpful suggestion for you. Why don't you forget this one argument that you do not understand and look at other DNA evidence for evolution. Creationists still have no explanation for how the nested hierarchy of DNA matches all of the other nested hierarchies outthere.

 

[Derek Meyer]

Please remove that picture from my quote.

It implies I believe rhinoceroses could be unicorns.

Thank you.

Why? Some varieties of rhino's are real examples of unicorns.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why? Some varieties of rhino's are real examples of unicorns.

So if I raised my hand in zoology class and asked the professor if the rhinoceros is the Biblical unicorn, he would say YES?

 

[Derek Meyer]

So if I raised my hand in zoology class and asked the professor if the rhinoceros is the Biblical unicorn, he would say YES?

The lecturer in zoology would laugh at you.

 

[Hieronymus]

The lecturer in zoology would laugh at you.

Why? It fits the Biblical description, doesn't it?