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When I was born I was baptized into Catholicism, but after some revelations I figured out Catholicism wasn't right. I consider myself Christian in the Sense that I believe in God, and accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savoir; as well as I try to follow the word as God.
I don't remember anywhere in the Bible where it says I need to be baptized, but doesn't baptism have pagan roots? I'm confused, please help.

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So I know know that Jesus was Baptized but I have the question of why was Jesus baptized if baptism is a pagan practice?
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I see I was misinformed and confused, thank you all for your enlightening.
 
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I don't remember anywhere in the Bible where it says I need to be baptized, but doesn't baptism have pagan roots? I'm confused, please help.
Jesus was baptised even though He was sinless and the Bible tells us that we should be baptised. I don't believe that we need to be baptised to be saved but we should be baptised to fulfill all righteousness as Jesus said.

Baptism is a baptism of repentance so one has to be old enough to understand what repentance is before being baptised. A child doesn't understand repentance. If you have only been baptised as a child then I would suggest that you get baptised again as a sign of your repentance and desire to accept Jesus as Lord of your life.

God bless,
Mick
 
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Jesus was baptised even though He was sinless and the Bible tells us that we should be baptised. I don't believe that we need to be baptised to be saved but we should be baptised to fulfill all righteousness as Jesus said.

Baptism is a baptism of repentance so one has to be old enough to understand what repentance is before being baptised. A child doesn't understand repentance. If you have only been baptised as a child then I would suggest that you get baptised again as a sign of your repentance and desire to accept Jesus as Lord of your life.

God bless,
Mick
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When I was born I was baptized into Catholicism, but after some revelations I figured out Catholicism wasn't right. I consider myself Christian in the Sense that I believe in God, and accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savoir; as well as I try to follow the word as God.
I don't remember anywhere in the Bible where it says I need to be baptized, but doesn't baptism have pagan roots? I'm confused, please help.


The Bible is clear that the world consists of THREE (3) GROUPS of people:
(a) the saved "wheat" in the "Kingdom of Heaven" and
(b) the unsaved "tares" in the "Kingdom of Heaven" and
(c) the lost souls OUTSIDE of the Kingdom, such as Jews, Moslems, Buddhists,
Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics, Secular Humanists, Pagans, etc.

In order to become part of group (#a) you must be "born again" when you receive
the "indwelling" Holy Spirit of God as the "earnest" of your inheritance. After receiving
the "first resurrection" of a soul going from DEATH to LIFE... your salvation is finalized
when you receive your glorified spiritual (and incorruptible) body at the sounding of
the Seventh Trumpet.


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Can you give the verses showing this 'third' group?


Yes...
Is the concept of Christianity being the ONLY WAY to God a novel idea?

Mar 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence,
shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you,
It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Mar 6:12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

BTW... I find it interesting you do not contest the unsaved "tares" in the Kingdom,
but question those OUTSIDE the Kingdom. Why is that?


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I don't remember anywhere in the Bible where it says I need to be baptized, but doesn't baptism have pagan roots? I'm confused, please help.

Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38
 
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BTW... I find it interesting you do not contest the unsaved "tares" in the Kingdom,
but question those OUTSIDE the Kingdom. Why is that?.

Well, when I saw your post I just popped off the question to you wondering who was outside.

Anyway, when we look at the Bible, Mat 13:38 tells us that there are only two types of people in the world - "The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one". You quoted the wheat and the tares as both being in the kingdom of heaven but the Bible tells us that the wheat are children of the kingdom and the tares are children of the wicked one.

Seeing that Jesus is talking about the world we can conclude that there are only two type of people in the world, not three as you said.

God bless,
Mick
 
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Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38


Acts 13:48
And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord:
and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
 
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When I was born I was baptized into Catholicism, but after some revelations I figured out Catholicism wasn't right. I consider myself Christian in the Sense that I believe in God, and accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savoir; as well as I try to follow the word as God.
I don't remember anywhere in the Bible where it says I need to be baptized, but doesn't baptism have pagan roots? I'm confused, please help.
Actually, the command in the NT on baptism is directed at the evangelist who preaches the gospel message, and not so much on the hearer of that message.

But the advantages of being baptized (After repenting and placing faith in Christ) are immense.

 
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Well water baptism is clearly taught in the NT and our Father is not the author of confusion. So, if there is any confusion about the necessity of water baptism, it has it's root in the other fellow.
 
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The pagans water baptize? They must have gotten it from Christianity then.

posted: I don't remember anywhere in the Bible where it says I need to be baptized
Water baptism Scriptures follow if you're interested. Actually, we need several baptisms.
Of the doctrine of baptisms ,..." (Heb 6:2):

1 - By The Holy Spirit into Jesus is baptism for salvation. This is blood baptism - His blood.
(Rev 1:5; Matt 26:28; Mark 1:4, 16:16; Luk 3:3; 1 Cor 12:13: Acts 2:38: Gal 3:27, Eph 1:13+++)

Water and Spirit baptism follow - doesn't seem to be a set order though:
2 - by others - water baptism (I Peter 3:21; Acts 8:38; 22:16; John 13:14 – Matt 3:11, 16++)
3 - By Jesus with / into The Holy Spirit (The Spirit baptism)
(such as Matt 3:11; Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16; Acts 11:16)

"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." I John 5:7-8

Water baptism Scriptures such as:
-“And he ordered the carriage to stop, and they both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.” Acts 8:38, Mounce
-“And now why are you waiting? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name.’ Acts 22:16, Mounce
-Jesus was baptized. But it wasn't that He needed to repent of sin because He was sinless (Heb 4:15; II Cor 5:21). We’re to be imitators of Christ such as “If I, then, your Master and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet.” John 13:14 John the Baptist baptized Jesus “I baptize you with water for repentance, but the one who comes after me is greater than I—I am not worthy even to remove his · sandals. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.” “And when Jesus was baptized, just as he was coming up from the water, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him.” Matt 3:11, 16
 
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Unless one considers OT Judaism to be "pagan."

well, mikvah is not baptism, because in our faith (Lutheran), it is not merely water but water joined with Christ's promise and performed according to his command. So it is not a ritual ablution, it is being baptized into Christ's death and resurrection.
 
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well, mikvah is not baptism, because in our faith (Lutheran), it is not merely water but water joined with Christ's promise and performed according to his command. So it is not a ritual ablution, it is being baptized into Christ's death and resurrection.
"Mikvah" is the water tank one gets immersed in. "Tevillah" is the actual act of immersion.

Yes - christian water baptism is different in several senses from the Jewish tevillah or even John the Immerser's practice. But it certainly is the root and origin of that practice.
 
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Your baptism in the Catholic church is still legitimate because it was done according to Christ's command and with the intention to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

At most mainline Protestant churches, no other baptisms would be performed. In fact we would consider it a sacrilege to do so, because we believe in only one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. Anyone can baptize a person in extraordinary circumstances, as long as the intention and form are the same as what has always been used by the Church. Indeed, it is not a human work that is done in baptism, but God's own work through human hands.
 
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You were not baptized into Catholicism. Rather you were baptized into the Christian faith in the Catholic Church. Your baptism is legitimate, sufficient, and need not be repeated regardless of where else your faith practice leads you. It is included in the ancient creed of our faith from the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. Bold/underline emphasis is mine:

"And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets. And I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come."
 
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