Do Genesis literalists also take the rest of the Bible literally?

[mzungu]

Not all disasters are natural:
Psalm 83:15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.

I distinctly remember tornadoes flattening some churches in the Bible belt and many were killed! I am sorry but such events are not to be seen as divine intervention but for what they are: Natural disasters!

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Stop wickedness, stop problems.

God is perfect.

You must be a barrel of laughs at parties.

 

[mzungu]

You must be a barrel of laughs at parties.

I doubt if he even goes to parties; Not with all the evil drinking and having fun that goes on in parties!

 

[AV1611VET]

I distinctly remember tornadoes flattening some churches in the Bible belt and many were killed! I am sorry but such events are not to be seen as divine intervention but for what they are: Natural disasters!

Not all disasters are Psalm 83 disasters. In fact, most come from Mama Nature.

 

[mzungu]

Not all disasters are Psalm 83 disasters. In fact, most come from Mama Nature.

How do we tell them apart? I remember some preacher saying that the Haiti earthquake was God's retribution! Could you give us the method used to discern the two?

 

[AV1611VET]

How do we tell them apart?

Good question.

 

[SkyWriting]

As difficult as this may be to explain to some, God created all and is in control of all. God allows because God is perfect. God is in complete control.

Its difficult when it's incorrect. God tells the story better:

Isaiah 13:11 New International Version (NIV)
11[bless and do not curse]I will punish the world for its evil, [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]the wicked for their sins. I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]and will humble the pride of the ruthless.
Luke 11:50
Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world,
John 1:29
[ John Testifies About Jesus ] The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
7 When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 8 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.
9 “You must be on your guard. You will be handed over to the local councils and flogged in the synagogues. On account of me you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them. 10 And the gospel must first be preached to all nations. 11 Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.

As you can read, God does not control this world, but He does know all about it.

Luke 12:6
Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God.

Luke 12:7
Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.

 

[KWCrazy]

Yeah and he also said those 47% didn't care about their lives and only wanted government handouts... including retired seniors and veterens.

So what? What does that have to do with acknowledging they won't vote for him? One can be a veteran and still be a socialist.

 

[mzungu]

Good question.

Yes and........

 

[TLK Valentine]

How do we tell them apart? I remember some preacher saying that the Haiti earthquake was God's retribution! Could you give us the method used to discern the two?

I bet I can give the method they use to discern the two.

Many believers assume as a matter of course that their God loves what they love, supports what they support, and hates what they hate.

So it stands to (their) reason that whenever something bad happens to their enemies, it must be happening to God's enemies as well, and therefore, it's God's punishment. OTOH, if it happens to someone whom they have no reason to hate, then most of the time it will be written off as a "natural disaster."

I say "most of the time," because there are some believers who continually believe that they are underestimating God's ability to hate, and will assume that the people being hit have committed some offense for which they have deserved obliteration.

Funny, isn't it? Believers (around here and elsewhere) are quick to believe that God hates more than they do; not so quick to believe that He loves more than they do.

 

[mzungu]

I bet I can give the method they use to discern the two.

Many believers assume as a matter of course that their God loves what they love, supports what they support, and hates what they hate.

So it stands to (their) reason that whenever something bad happens to their enemies, it must be happening to God's enemies as well, and therefore, it's God's punishment. OTOH, if it happens to someone whom they have no reason to hate, then most of the time it will be written off as a "natural disaster."

I say "most of the time," because there are some believers who continually believe that they are underestimating God's ability to hate, and will assume that the people being hit have committed some offense for which they have deserved obliteration.

Funny, isn't it? Believers (around here and elsewhere) are quick to believe that God hates more than they do; not so quick to believe that He loves more than they do.

Excellent answer but must I be answered by a heathen like me? Come on AV; Give it a shot mate!

 

[Smidlee]

How do we tell them apart? I remember some preacher saying that the Haiti earthquake was God's retribution! Could you give us the method used to discern the two?

Let me guess, you saw this preacher on TV right? Anytime you put a camera in someone face it changes everything. Also I would guess this preacher made that statement after the fact. Since the NT the whole world is judged then I doubt God is trying to make any statement through natural disasters.

 

[someguy14]

You must be a barrel of laughs at parties.

The ones that get drunk off the saints blood, on their hands, find it hilarious.

 

[someguy14]

As you can read, God does not control this world, but He does know all about it.

Regardless of mans doubt, God is in complete control. Satan is aware of it and hates it.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

The ones that get drunk off the saints blood, on their hands, find it hilarious.

Blimey. Is that what the word 'party' means to you?

 

[someguy14]

Blimey. Is that what the word 'party' means to you?

Im surprised the trendies havn't come up with a better word.
Oh the possibilities.

 

[mzungu]

Blimey. Is that what the word 'party' means to you?

I told ya so!

 

[TLK Valentine]

Regardless of mans doubt, God is in complete control. Satan is aware of it and hates it.

I'm sure the people God kills with his natural and unnatural disasters aren't too fond of His "complete control" either.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm sure the people God kills with his natural and unnatural disasters aren't too fond of His "complete control" either.

How about the ones He kept alive? are you willing to comment on them as well, or just the ones you can use to put God in a negative light?

 

[Fencepost]

THIS THREAD QUESTION IS FOR EVERYBODY, anybody can answer and participate in the discussion.

Do those who literally interpret the passages in Genesis 1-9 also literally interpret these passages:

1 - Women should not teach or have authority over men.
2 - Nobody should work on the Sabbath.
3 - Pork and shellfish are unclean and should not be eaten.
4 - Women should not wear pants.
5 - Nobody should wear clothes woven with different fabrics.
6 - Nobody should sit in the same place a woman during her period has sat.

And so on...

Ok first off your taking the whole word of God out of context, but I'll do my best.

1) Gal 3:28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

2) Col 2:16-17 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

3) see number 2

4) They didn't wear pants in bible times.

5) If your refering to Deut 22:11 that is wool and linen which is very hard to find.

6) Your taking the old testament out of context.

Listen dude or dudet judge nothing before the time. The Israelites misunderstood the Old Testament just as we do today otherwise they would not of crucified The Lord. How about this brain teaser just perhaps Jesus fulfilled the Torah's 613 laws because the Jewish people of His time misunderstood them. Just perhaps He showed us the correction of the law in this simple sentance. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

Have you seen a rainbow in the sky lately that should tell you right there how liteal the bible is: Chapter 9 of Genesis a eternal covenant with all living creatures on the planet look it up.