Do creationists critically examine their own ideas (re: creationism)?

[klutedavid]

Where is this from?

Do some research and look it up.

 

[lasthero]

God is spirit and is not subject to time.

So how can he do anything?

We cannot understand anything about God because God exists far beyond the dimension of space time.

Really? Isn’t that sort of the point of the Bible?

God is love and that we can know.

So you CAN understand something about him.

 

[lasthero]

Do some research and look it up.

Well, that was rude for no reason. You clearly got it from somewhere, why can’t you just tell me?

 

[Yttrium]

Do some research and look it up.

does research

looks at a number of sites

Huh. All I can find is 10-12 billion. I don't see the 14 billion anywhere.

 

[Tone]

Well, sorry, it’s not. It has shadows on it, which is a pretty obvious tell.

Is it possible that the moon emitted light of itself at some point in time?

 

[klutedavid]

So how can he do anything?

Because he creates and destroys space time, He owns this universe and we a mere spectators.

Really? Isn’t that sort of the point of the Bible?

The point of the Bible is the Christ Himself, it's all about Him.

So you CAN understand something about him.

Not really, God is a divine entity and the definition that the scripture provides far surpasses what we can imagine.

He loves us but that is a divine love apparently without condition or limit. If you can comprehend the eternal, then you can understand something about God, I can't.

 

[klutedavid]

does research

looks at a number of sites

Huh. All I can find is 10-12 billion. I don't see the 14 billion anywhere.

The oldest stars we've found in the Universe are nearly pristine, where almost 100% of what makes them up is the hydrogen and helium left over from the Big Bang. They come in at over 13 billion years old, with the oldest at 14.5 billion. And this is a big problem, because the Universe itself is only 13.8 billion years old.
(forbes.com)

 

[Tone]

So now you’re saying things can exist without a creator.

Things can't,but obviously One Person (consciousness) can.

 

[AV1611VET]

Is it possible that the moon emitted light of itself at some point in time?

Great minds think alike, eh?

The solar system and, by extension, the universe could have been geocentric @ one time, with the moon emitting light.

This would, of course, allow for a literal interpretation of Joshua 10.

 

[Yttrium]

The oldest stars we've found in the Universe are nearly pristine, where almost 100% of what makes them up is the hydrogen and helium left over from the Big Bang. They come in at over 13 billion years old, with the oldest at 14.5 billion. And this is a big problem, because the Universe itself is only 13.8 billion years old.
(forbes.com)

Well, I managed to find it:

The Greatest Cosmic Puzzle: Astronomers Find Stars That Appear Older Than The Universe

The key here is HD140283, also called the Methuselah Star.

Wikipedia:
HD 140283 - Wikipedia

Interesting stuff. I'll have to read more.

 

[lasthero]

Things can't,but obviously One Person (consciousness) can.

So things can’t exist without a creator, except the thing that exists without a creator.

Got it.

 

[lasthero]

Because he creates and destroys space time, He owns this universe and we a mere spectators.

That doesn’t really answer the question, but okay.[/QUOTE]

 

[Tone]

So things can’t exist without a creator, except the thing that exists without a creator.

Got it.

Not "things".

 

[lasthero]

Not "things".

Okay. ‘Thing’.

 

[Tone]

Okay. ‘Thing’.

No.

 

[Tone]

No thing.

 

[Tone]

Okay. ‘Thing’.

Do you know what no thing is?

*Look around and tell me what you see...

 

[lasthero]

No thing.

No.

Yes.

 

[lasthero]

Do you know what no thing is?

*Look around and tell me what you see...

Not sure. Never seen a nothing.

 

[Tone]

Not sure. Never seen a nothing.

What do you see?