Do Conservatives like War?

[Roman Soldier]

Why is it that no matter what war is being planned conservatives think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread? Ever since Korea there have been hawks around.

We could invade the Falkland Islands tomorrow and they would be 100% behind it.

 

[platzapS]

That's absurd! No one except psychopaths like war. No sane people, including conservatives, desire war. Conservatives just tend to be more likely to use military action when they think it is the only possible option.

For the record, I'm against the Iraq war, but I don't think that these war supporters like war at all. They just think that the conflict is for the greater good of America and the world.

 

[mutantleader]

No, definitely not. War is inevitable when there are countries that threaten our freedoms and national interests.

 

[Blackguard_]

qiuckness to bloodshed seems to all that seperates Republicans from Democrats these days, along with thinking a President they like also has the mandate of God.

Its becasue of that "opose the war, but support the troops thing" they (and this applies to many liberals as well) really have no Just War theory as they believe you cannot criticize a soldier for doing his job/duty/whatever.

So to them any war a soldier fights is just from the soldier's point of view, so to say any war is unjust becomes meaningless as you do not think those fighting it are doing any wrong.

They are violating Christian liberty by binding people to something other than God, such as with the enlistment oath, and especially by saying they have a higher duty to the State then to God and his morals. When they say you can't criticize the soldiers becasue they are "just doing their duty", who or what is that a duty to?

 

[one love]

Conservatives like war in a sense it'll prevent further atrocoties. Democrats love war much more than any conservative. Case in point, WWI, Korea, Vietnam, and Eastern Europe. Under the REpublicans we have had a war to unite the union (which eventually freed slaves) and had two wars against one man. And you feel it is needful to put in a title saying 'isn't it obvious'?

 

[Gunny]

I am an individual who would probally be deemed conservative by todays standards. I am a Vietnam Veteran who spent three years in Nam. My oldest brother who was in the USMC as was I, was KIA in 1970.

As a Christian, I know that God's Holy Word speaks of war (s) in the age we live in presently.

I do not like war nor the consequenses of war but as one who willingly enlisted in the Armed Forces I attempted to be the best soldier I could be while serving my country.




6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

 

[Vylo]

Teddy Roosevelt was a conservative and while he desire a strong military, he was not keen on using force unless it was absolutely needed. "Walk softly and carry a big stick".

 

[MaryS]

Of course there ARE conservatives who oppose the war....and some of them still voted for Bush based on other issues (like "gun rights", judges, etc.). If the Democratic Party had wanted to make the war a real issue in the 2004 election, they certainly could have nominated a candidate who actually voted against the war.

Senator Lieberman, the former V.P. candidate, is a rapid supporter of the war and is still one of the most liberal Senators.

 

[Gunny]

To begin with, we must realize that war is a reality of life in a fallen world.(Matthew 24:4-7a,Genesis 3,4)


Jesus recognizes and predicts this normal state of affairs. Peace is not normal, war is. This is because we live in a sinful, evil, fallen world. Therefore Jesus cautions us not be fearful or surprised at the news of war, it is not only possible, but expected. This doesn't mean that he approves of war, or that he sanctions it. What it does mean is that God knows that the heart of every human is fallen, cruel and wicked. He is not surprised by the occurrence of war.


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[Higher]

Teddy Roosevelt was a conservative and while he desire a strong military, he was not keen on using force unless it was absolutely needed. "Walk softly and carry a big stick".

TR was a Progressive. Not a Radical Liberal, but liberal none the less.

Liberal/Conservative has nothing to do with a Pro/Anti War stance. I myself am A very Liberal person, yet I intend to enter the military for a career. Very few who have actually been there have enjoyed it. The only ones who REALLY liked war were the F-86 pilots in Korea, only because to them it was a "Sport". Their Soviet MiG-15 piloting adversaries saw it mostly the same way. Ask anyone else though, and you'll get a much different answer. When necessary, we should use Military force. But only if you can do some good with it.

 

[Jetgirl]

I hate war.


I also seriously seriously hate the dentist, but sometimes I've got to go.





My fiancee says:
"I love war! Blood makes the grass grow!

Marines......

 

[Jetgirl]

along with thinking a President they like also has the mandate of God.

Some of us can't think that, by definition.

*Points at religion icon*

 

[Roman Soldier]

Interesting poll results.

 

[Verv]

I vote "Yes, of course, it is obvious," as a conservative; I think that war is the tool for the liberation of the slaves and oppressed of the world. As surely as we gained our freedom through a war, so shall others; the tyrant and the wicked man simply do not lay down their arms.

War has abolished slavery, defeated Nazism and Communism, has won the freedoms of countless millions.

Can it be used for evil? Yes, of course; it can be an enslaving force.

However, to me war represents a holy struggle of the human being against the slave-drivers that push him into the ground. A ssurely as the American flag flies for the freedom and glory of its people,so shall one day the flags of lands who are currently repressed will fly again, as symbols of their people, their pride, and their basic rights as humans.

If we talk about war along these lines, isn't it obvious that a Conservative or anyone at all who cared about human rights and wasn't overly idealistic about it would support it?

 

[Smoke Screen]

I vote "Yes, of course, it is obvious," as a conservative; I think that war is the tool for the liberation of the slaves and oppressed of the world. As surely as we gained our freedom through a war, so shall others; the tyrant and the wicked man simply do not lay down their arms.

War has abolished slavery, defeated Nazism and Communism, has won the freedoms of countless millions.

Can it be used for evil? Yes, of course; it can be an enslaving force.

However, to me war represents a holy struggle of the human being against the slave-drivers that push him into the ground. A ssurely as the American flag flies for the freedom and glory of its people,so shall one day the flags of lands who are currently repressed will fly again, as symbols of their people, their pride, and their basic rights as humans.

If we talk about war along these lines, isn't it obvious that a Conservative or anyone at all who cared about human rights and wasn't overly idealistic about it would support it?

LOL! I hear Lee Greenwood "I'm Proud to be an American" in the background...

 

[Gunny]

LOL! I hear Lee Greenwood "I'm Proud to be an American" in the background...

That's an Outstanding song. My wife bought my oldest grandson a Bear that plays that song. She bought it shortly after the One Year Anniversary of 9-11.

 

[Smoke Screen]

That's an Outstanding song. My wife bought my oldest grandson a Bear that plays that song. She bought it shortly after the One Year Anniversary of 9-11.

I liked hearing it when our Nation was united after 9/11. Once Bush decided to invade Iraq and take his focus off of the terrorists that attacked our country, patriotic songs, slogans, and symbols became too cliche' and meaningless. It's been over-played and reminds me of the pseudopatriotic cheesy "Support The Troops" and "God Bless America" magnets.

 

[theeyesoftammyfaye]

It's been over-played and reminds me of the pseudopatriotic cheesy "Support The Troops" and "God Bless America" magnets.

that are "made in china"

 

[Smoke Screen]

that are "made in china"

LOL! That too! How about the "Git 'er Done!" magnets! LOL! I can see the Duke boys in Hazzard county putting one on the "General Lee." The Confederate flag on wheels...

 

[Blackguard_]

War has abolished slavery, defeated Nazism and Communism, has won the freedoms of countless millions.

Slavery still exists, and war did not defeat Communism in Russia, our involvement in WW2 probably saved communism in Russia, and it is still alive in China. Was defeating Nazism to save Communism a good trade?

Can it be used for evil? Yes, of course; it can be an enslaving force.

Like the Oath of Enlistment enslaving the conscience to the State and violating Christian liberty?

However, to me war represents a holy struggle of the human being against the slave-drivers that push him into the ground.

War in general represents that how? A specific war maybe, but war in general? Most wars have been fought fought for wealth or pride.

A ssurely as the American flag flies for the freedom and glory of its people,

I'm really curious as to how you define freedom, as even medieval peasants would have revolted at our income tax rates.

If we talk about war along these lines, isn't it obvious that a Conservative or anyone at all who cared about human rights and wasn't overly idealistic about it would support it?

It depends on what war you are talking about, but not war in general. I do not think the poll is actually about Georgie's War if that is what you are hinting at.

Some of us can't think that, by definition.

*Points at religion icon*

True, but thats what happens painting with a broad brush. All the Republicans I know are Christians who love Bush, so that tends to creep into my views of them.