Do Christians Realize How Menacing They Seem?

[tapero]

I didn't notice any question to be answered..

Except of course, if you include the question to athiests at the end, which you did not answer..

What question was that?

 

[SolomonVII]

Hi, good points.

Thanks.I

just would like to say that because someone is an athiest does not mean they are all the same.

Oh, of course not.
Most, I am sure, would not find Christians very intimidating at all. We share the same schools, and workplaces. We eat together, play together, and live together for the most part.

wouldnt' paint them with a broad brush, but would take each one as they are and base your judgements on that.

Good point. There is of course, sometimes good reason to paint a criticism a little more broadly, out of kindness, lest the criticism gets just too personal for comfort.

It's not right to prejudge because of the name they go by.

No, I agree. Athiest means that someone doesn't believe in God.

I can't imagine my atheist friend<s> being anything but disgusted at the art form you described.

Disgust would be the natural human reaction still, wouldn't it?
But then again, in a society that tolerates such blasphemy and filth, it just does not add up that someone should be afraid for simply being an athiest when such godless acts of God-hatred are condoned and even celebrated by the elites of our society.

I am merely pointing out that the Christian menace is being overblown.
to give it an international perspective, in Canada this myth of the Christian menace is even deciding elctions against Christian polticians.

It is expected and written that the world will hate us because of Jesus. This is normal stuff for us. People are afraid of Christians. It's because they don't understand us, for they have not had the experience of being born-again. It makes no sense to them. That's natural, as we were all non christians at some point too, and could not hear the things of God.

Rather, the devil fears Christians, because we expose his lies.

My guess though is that post-christian people have learned one of the lessons of the cross very well, and that is that persecution and victimization can coalesce a people into a common cause, just as the early christians rallied thenmselves around the cross.

It is a Satanic intelligence that understands that the threat and the persecution does not have to be real to cause a people to rally. Even an illusory threat can be perceived as real, and just the illusory perception can serve very well indeed to coalesce a people against those that bear the Word of God.

Wish I wasn't on my way to bed so that I would have replied more thoughtfully, but I hope I answered some of your questions.

Always nice to engage in a stimulating coversation about Christ.

Pleasant dreams.

 

[tapero]

ETA:

He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

My point is that we lie, we have unbelief in our hearts at times etc. We are saved, but we still sin. We try not to sin, and we give it to God, but our sin is deeply ingrained, and God will help to draw that out of us, so that we can turn from it.


When I mentioned homosexuals, notice I said the ones I was talking about don't believe they are sinning. They are decieved. They have been taught that the bible doesn't really mean that it's talkign about homosexuality.

However, it is a sin, like any other. All sin is evil. All of our sin is evil. But a believer, may live in denial of their sin, never admit to it, never even be confronted about ti for there are so many other things that are front and center. Many who have premarital sex do not see it as a sin. It is the Holy Spirit that will convict them. And if they don't harden their hearts then they will stop sinning. My point is we all sin.

 

[Zeena]

What question was that?

Is the typical athiest really that timid that he cringes from any expresssion of a right-wing Christian point of view that is different from his own?
I wonder how one even get to sleep at night for fear that his own shadow is lying in wait for him in the darkness of his own room?

There are not other question marks within his entire post..

 

[Zeena]

My point is we all sin.

Romans 6:15-17

15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

 

[Im_A]

As an atheist, I am in the minority in the United States. I am also apparently the least liked minority, outranking homosexuals and Muslims. As I read up on the founders of my philosophy I become aware that they were ruthlessly persecuted by the Christian majority for their non-belief. The Christian Right is acting in menacing ways, declaring that because of my non-belief I am not a patriot and a danger to society. We are stereotyped as unloving, empty monsters who seek to take over the world and more and more Christians believe this about us. Scary terms like "Christian Nation" are thrown about often, evoking a fear of a return to a time when we are persecuted yet again. (Imagine if Muslims started bandying about the term "Muslim Nation" when describing the US to see what I mean.)

Do Christians realize how scary some of their elements can appear to us concerned non-believers?

hello skepticalone

i just have one question with this, and please don't be offended. why would it matter if you don't believe it is true? you live in a country that supports the freedom of speech for all and is not back in the time to where people were burned for whatever reason. so in a country that allows you to speak, why would some Christians views against you really matter for your life?

again i beg you don't feel offended with this.

 

[tapero]

I am merely pointing out that the Christian menace is being overblown.

to give it an international perspective, in Canada this myth of the Christian menace is even deciding elctions against Christian polticians.

Hi, Sorry I deleted all the rest. I didn't grasp it all as some was over my head and I'm not thinking my best.

Just want to say I agree that the Christian menace is being overblown; no Christmas, no mention of God, etc. But to people who don't believe, there is a fear about it, and that was why I brought up the points I did.

We see them as harming us, and visa versa. They are unable to hear what we hear.

I was trying to show I could see why the op had some fear, because I see many Christians on the board for example, trying to change people on the outside, when they aren't even saved. Wish I had chosen a different topic to elaborate on, but I didn't.

I hope I can get back to the rest of your post tonight.

Thanks for your kindness.
tapero

 

[Zeena]

I hope I can get back to the rest of your post tonight.

Thanks for your kindness.
tapero

Perhaps a 'private message' might be inorder, if it does not correlate with the the intention to answer the original poster..

 

[calidog]

I think we all often take a lot for granted in a free nation.