Do Christians Have Power Over Sin?

[Always in His Presence]

1 Cor 1:26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. 27But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.

No flesh, no act of faithfulness, no work of righteousness can glory in His presence. I am incapable of righteousness in my flesh.


30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— 31 that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the LORD.

Christ is now become for me - my wisdom, my righteousness and my sanctification.

Christ and Christ alone can make me righteous - if you believe your works make you righteous, then your flesh is taking God's Glory.

1 Cor 15:33 Do not be deceived: “Evil company corrupts good habits.” 34 Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.

Wake up! Awake to righteousness - not one that you can obtain - but one that is given through Christ. Yes, a gift of Righteousness.

Gal 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.”

If you keeping the law makes you righteous - then Christ dies in vain. For nothing. No, I am crucified with Christ - I not longer live, but Christ lives in me!

Eph 4:17 This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you should no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their mind, 18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart; 19 who, being past feeling, have given themselves over to lewdness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
20 But you have not so learned Christ, 21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:

22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,

23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind,

24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

Glory!

 

[Always in His Presence]

Oh, I forgot the scripture for the statement Gif of Righteousness


Romans 5:6 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification. 17 For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.

Are you reigning or just barley maintaining?

 

[holo]

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[JContinuum]

Without an acceptance of Christ and the Cross, the sinner cannot be saved; and unless the Believer places his faith totally and completely in Christ and the Cross, he cannot live a consecrated, dedicated, Christian life. the key to this understanding is found in Romans, Chapter 6. But the tragedy is, most Preachers have almost no understanding of this Chapter, which means that those who sit under them have no understanding as well. As a result, the sin nature rules and reigns in the lives of most Christians, and despite the outward bravado, makes the life miserable (Rom. 7:24)

 

[JimfromOhio]

Oh, I forgot the scripture for the statement Gif of Righteousness


Romans 5:6 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification. 17 For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.

Are you reigning or just barley maintaining?

Reigning in Spirit....

Maintaning in flesh.....

What is the real answer?

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Then why is it you are not saying "I have stopped sinning because I trust Christ"? Why is it you continue to sin when you have the self proclaimed ability to stop?

Sanctification is progressive. As the Holy Spirit progressively reveals sins that I commit I use self discipline to stop myself from doing them. I have not continued sinning those same sins of my earlier walk that I knew was sinning.

 

[dkbwarrior]

Sanctification is progressive. As the Holy Spirit progressively reveals sins that I commit I use self discipline to stop myself from doing them. I have not continued sinning those same sins of my earlier walk that I knew was sinning.

So you no longer commit sin knowingly? You don't sometimes do something that you know is wrong?

 

[DevotiontoBible]

So you no longer commit sin knowingly? You don't sometimes do something that you know is wrong?

Right, that would be stupid. Why would anybody sin knowingly, willingly sin?

 

[Always in His Presence]

Sanctification is progressive.

1 Cor 1: 30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— 31 that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the LORD.

 

[ANM29]

We have the power not to sin, that does not mean we can't sin or don't sin. We are no longer in bondage to sin. Sin does not rule us, but because we have a sinful nature ( and no good thing dwells in this flesh ) we are still capable of falling especially into some of our 'old man' sinful habits we had before we came to know Christ.

Some sinful habits take time to come out of, others just seem to leave all of a sudden.

We are all still a work in progress, and will be until we receive our new bodies.

 

[holo]

Sanctification is progressive. As the Holy Spirit progressively reveals sins that I commit I use self discipline to stop myself from doing them. I have not continued sinning those same sins of my earlier walk that I knew was sinning.

Well, good luck with that. Stopping struggling and starting to rest and rely on God produces much better results, though. It's faster, too. And instead of restraining yourself with self-dicsipline, God will make you actually CHANGE into a better person.

And it's also better to have HIS righteousness than your own.

But it's your choice.

 

[Heartland]

Well, good luck with that. Stopping struggling and starting to rest and rely on God produces much better results, though. It's faster, too. And instead of restraining yourself with self-dicsipline, God will make you actually CHANGE into a better person.

And it's also better to have HIS righteousness than your own.

But it's your choice.

Amen! Gal 3:2-4 This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh?

 

[dkbwarrior]

Right, that would be stupid. Why would anybody sin knowingly, willingly sin?

Well, I do. I don't want to, but sometimes I do. On occasion my wife and I have had arguments, and I have said something hurtful, on purpose.

I have neglected to immediately turn off the television when something that is innapropriate came on.

I have cut someone off on the freeway becasue they cut me off.

I could go on and on. These are all things that I know are wrong. Yet sometimes I mess up and do them anyway. If I really believed that you or others never did these things, just by willpower, I would quit being a Christian. How could I justify being a christian if I was so much more evil than all of the christians around me?

Truth is, I don't believe that you never choose to commit a sin. The Bible says that there is none righteous, no, not one. There is none that doeth good. There is none that seeketh after God.

Peace...

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Well, I do. I don't want to, but sometimes I do. On occasion my wife and I have had arguments, and I have said something hurtful, on purpose.

I have neglected to immediately turn off the television when something that is innapropriate came on.

I have cut someone off on the freeway becasue they cut me off.

I could go on and on. These are all things that I know are wrong. Yet sometimes I mess up and do them anyway. If I really believed that you or others never did these things, just by willpower, I would quit being a Christian. How could I justify being a christian if I was so much more evil than all of the christians around me?

Truth is, I don't believe that you never choose to commit a sin. The Bible says that there is none righteous, no, not one. There is none that doeth good. There is none that seeketh after God.

Peace...

It doesn't mean you are not a Christian because you keep doing the same sinful things it means you are disobedient to God and lazy like these: Hebrews 5:11-14 (NLT)
There is so much more we would like to say about this. But you don't seem to listen, so it's hard to make you understand. [12] You have been Christians a long time now, and you ought to be teaching others. Instead, you need someone to teach you again the basic things a beginner must learn about the Scriptures. You are like babies who drink only milk and cannot eat solid food. [13] And a person who is living on milk isn't very far along in the Christian life and doesn't know much about doing what is right. [14] Solid food is for those who are mature, who have trained themselves to recognize the difference between right and wrong and then do what is right.

 

[JContinuum]

If believers have sin problems, and most all do, and they go to their Pastor, virtually all of the time, the Pastor will say to them, among other things, You’ve got to try harder. Pastors teach that, because they they don't know the right way them self. In fact, even pastors are having problems just as the seeker is having problems, perhaps even worse. Living for God, and walking in victory, has nothing to do with trying harder. I don’t care how hard a person tries (will power, self, the flesh) If the believer will understand that every single thing they receive from the Lord, irrespective as to what it might be, comes solely through the means of the Cross, and thereby make the Cross the object of his Faith, and refuse to allow it to be moved to other things (will power, self, the flesh) the Holy Spirit will then begin to work within their life, will allows the Grace of God to have full play, and that Christian will then find victory, and victory as they has never known before, and I speak of perpetual victory. That victory is the fruit of the Spirit which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control (Victory Over Sin) Faith in what Jesus did at the cross is for justification and ALSO for sanctification. Proper faith always produces proper works

God sure knows how to make his children smile

Cheers

John in Revelations summed it up "This is the victory that overcometh the world, even our Faith" (I Jn. 5:4)

 

[holo]

Here's from the NIV:

Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.

It's insight into righteousness that matters. And righteousness isn't about knowing good from evil like Adam and Eve learned! No, righteousness is Christ. And we ARE righteous, and that's what we need insight in. And we don't learn to distinguish good from bad from a list of rules or definitions or commandments, but by continually using our senses.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

1 Cor 1: 30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— 31 that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the LORD.

Christ is our sanctification but that doesn't mean we are sanctified experientially. You are not a sanctified person if you practice sinning, that is a sinner. You are still a sinner even though you are a born again person. ie a born again person can't say I committed adultery with another woman but I am not an adulterer. Face reality, the Bible never say Christains can sin and not be sinners.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

If believers have sin problems, and most all do, and they go to their Pastor, virtually all of the time, the Pastor will say to them, among other things, You’ve got to try harder. Pastors teach that, because they they don't know the right way them self. In fact, even pastors are having problems just as the seeker is having problems, perhaps even worse. Living for God, and walking in victory, has nothing to do with trying harder. I don’t care how hard a person tries (will power, self, the flesh) If the believer will understand that every single thing they receive from the Lord, irrespective as to what it might be, comes solely through the means of the Cross, and thereby make the Cross the object of his Faith, and refuse to allow it to be moved to other things (will power, self, the flesh) the Holy Spirit will then begin to work within their life, will allows the Grace of God to have full play, and that Christian will then find victory, and victory as they has never known before, and I speak of perpetual victory. That victory is the fruit of the Spirit which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control (Victory Over Sin) Faith in what Jesus did at the cross is for justification and ALSO for sanctification. Proper faith always produces proper works

God sure knows how to make his children smile

Cheers

John in Revelations summed it up "This is the victory that overcometh the world, even our Faith" (I Jn. 5:4)

Your lack of Scripture is noticable.

 

[holo]

You are not a sanctified person if you practice sinning

Then a sinner isn't guilty if he does something good.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Here's from the NIV:

Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.

It's insight into righteousness that matters. And righteousness isn't about knowing good from evil like Adam and Eve learned! No, righteousness is Christ. And we ARE righteous, and that's what we need insight in. And we don't learn to distinguish good from bad from a list of rules or definitions or commandments, but by continually using our senses.

It isn't insight that matters but constant use to train yourself that matters. Any one can be a hearer of the Word but DOING the Word is what matters.