Do all Members of the Trinity know all things?

[mesue]

KJV is only one translation of the scriptures.

The NAS claims to be translated from the KJV. I was saved reading a NAS and read the preface before I read that Bible. Why would I go to an artificial KJV when I have the purer word of God? Why would anyone?

As for the rest, remember that Jesus was fully God and fully man.God may not have revealed to Jesus while Jesus was fully man, but I have no doubt Jesus knew from the beginning of time. Of that you will not change my mind until Jesus Himself says so.

Mar 13:32 -
Neither the Son - This text has always presented serious difficulties. It has been asked, If Jesus had a divine nature, how could he say that he knew not the day and hour of a future event? In reply, it has been said that the passage was missing, according to Ambrose, in some Greek manuscripts; but it is now found in all, and there can be little doubt that the passage is genuine. Others have said that the verb rendered "knoweth" means sometimes to "make" known or to reveal, and that the passage means, "that day and hour none makes known, neither the angels, nor the Son, but the Father." It is true that the word has sometimes that meaning, as in 1Co_2:2, but then it is natural to ask where has "the Father" made it known? In what place did he reveal it? After all, the passage has no more difficulty than that in Luk_2:52, where it is said that Jesus increased in wisdom and stature. He had a human nature. He grew as a man in knowledge. As a man his knowledge must be finite, for the faculties of the human soul are not infinite. As a man he often spoke, reasoned, inquired, felt, feared, read, learned, ate, drank, and walked. Why are not all these, which imply that he was a "man" - that, "as a man," he was not infinite - why are not these as difficult as the want of knowledge respecting the particular "time" of a future event, especially when that time must be made known by God, and when he chose that the man Christ Jesus should grow, and think, and speak "as a man?"

 

[Fat]

The NAS claims to be translated from the KJV. I was saved reading a NAS and read the preface before I read that Bible. Why would I go to an artificial KJV when I have the purer word of God? Why would anyone?

You know mesue if you're were right just once in a while.

The New American Standard Bible, long considered a favorite study Bible by serious students of the Scriptures, has been completely revised and updated in this new 1995 translation. Preserving the Lockman Foundation's standard of creating a literal translation of the original Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic manuscripts, the 1995 NASB provides a literal translation that is very readable. Formalized language and outdated words and phrases have been replaced with their contemporary counterparts. In short, the 1995 NASB is a Bible translation that is very conducive to word-by-word study and is also able to be read (and understood) by the whole family.

As for the rest, remember that Jesus was fully God and fully man.God may not have revealed to Jesus while Jesus was fully man, but I have no doubt Jesus knew from the beginning of time. Of that you will not change my mind until Jesus Himself says so.

So tell me mesue what did Christ say in your KJV for Mark 13:32 ? Or are you saying that the KJV is faulty, in error, not a real Bible?

Fat

I think lambslove nailed the question right off the bat. And even though some what confuses, sue seems to be going there.

 

[mesue]

You know mesue if you're were right just once in a while.

I should dignify this ...

How?

 

[novcncy]

Man I hate to see people going at it...


Mesue, I suppose you saw that the NASB is not from the KJV. In fact, they come from differing families of the original texts. But that's not the thread.

My opinion is that, as the Bible says the Son does not know, that He didin't know. He was, after all, speaking in present tense. He didn't say He would never know. Just take it on faith. Maybe He still doesn't know? Whether he knows now or not is kinda irrelavent, because He's gone for now, and by the time He comes back to tell anyone, we'll all know anyway. It's also irrelevant, because He's coming back when the Father tells Him to.

I do have a question if there are any Greek geeks out there. What tense is Jesus using when He said that? Is it the tense that implies constant action, or is it the one time, right now, tense?

 

[mesue]

Man I hate to see people going at it...


Mesue, I suppose you saw that the NASB is not from the KJV. In fact, they come from differing families of the original texts. But that's not the thread.

My opinion is that, as the Bible says the Son does not know, that He didin't know. He was, after all, speaking in present tense. He didn't say He would never know. Just take it on faith. Maybe He still doesn't know? Whether he knows now or not is kinda irrelavent, because He's gone for now, and by the time He comes back to tell anyone, we'll all know anyway. It's also irrelevant, because He's coming back when the Father tells Him to.

I do have a question if there are any Greek geeks out there. What tense is Jesus using when He said that? Is it the tense that implies constant action, or is it the one time, right now, tense?

I'm not here to debate Bible versions and where they came from. I just remember reading my NAS preface and what they had to say about how they came up with their "better" version. I remember defending that version because of the preface and it's more scholarly version. This was an old 1955 version and maybe they have re-revised it since.
You're very right when you say that it's irrelevant whether Jesus knew. That has no bearing on my salvation. I offered my opinion and I'll not be swayed. The beauty of living in the USA is that we can all speak our opinions and there is no law that says they have to agree. I praise God He placed me here.
Peace.