DNA Code Indicates Creator

[TagliatelliMonster]

It can be...I have a science experiment for us, easy science. Take one Grandma, one rocking chair, a couple of knitting needles and some yarn. Then a whole room of empty space, and lets make a...well, how bout a Christmas stocking?

We cut Grandma loose with her yarn in the living room. Then do nothing with the empty room but wait, aaaand, GO!

OK, Grandma is just finishing up, and for those who are still watching the empty space, if and when you get tired or give up, let us know what you conclude, otherwise, wait as long as you like

If you are still waiting, you don't want to know what I'm concluding right now, I mean besides the obvious.

I have a similar experiment.

Let's set out to build 2 houses.
1 will be build by a single atheist contractor.
For the other, we'll gather every poly- and mono-theist on the planet and have them pray to their respective god(s) to have the house build in supernatural fashion.

Let's see what happens.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Oh, come on, they explain their opinion of what they think could have happened, and often a jaded Atheists opinion.

Big Bang theory was developed and proposes by George LeMaitre. A physicist and catholic priest.

So much for "atheists opinion".

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

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I said I believe, and I believe because of what I observe. Ive gone over it several times here. Just look around, go outside an look around some more, that is my evidence. IOW, it's there, and the only way I have ever see anything come to be "there" is for it to be created so, in turn I surmise it was created.

Really?

Yesterday, I found a bunch of mushrooms in my garden. They weren't "there" a couple days a go. Did a "mushroom creator" put them there?

Excellent logic in my view.

That some strange view.

No you "back up" your alternative, okay?

We don't require "alternatives" for unsupported bare assertions.

 

[Nithavela]

Complicated things "just happen" all the time.

Take a hurricane for example. Try to mathematically describe what exactly goes on there, how it forms, how it behaves, how it develops.

I'ld call that quite complicated.... But I don't see why we should assume hurricane-creating fairies to account for it...

To be fair, we know that hurricans are created from a butterfly flapping it's wings. But only if it's gay. Or something like that.

 

[Radrook]

How did the peer review turn out.

I would kindly ask you to quote me on what I said - not to fabricate quotes containing that which would be more convenient for you to address. Thank you.

Totally biased atheistic peers have only one agenda-anti religion.

 

[Radrook]

DNA is a molecule and no more of a code then any other chemical engaged in a (chain) reaction.

Your own scientists consider it a code.

The genetic code

The genetic code by which DNA stores the genetic information consists of "codons" of three nucleotides. The functional segments of DNA which code for the transfer of genetic information are called genes. With four possible bases, the three nucleotides can give 43 = 64 different possibilities, and these combinations are used to specify the 20 different amino acids used by living organisms.

The ribonucleic acid (RNA) that is directly involved in the transcription of the pattern of bases from the DNA to provide a blueprint for the construction of proteins is called messenger RNA or typically mRNA. The pattern for protein synthesis is then read and translated into the language of amino acids for protein construction with the help of transfer RNA or tRNA.

The Genetic Code in Operation for Protein Construction
The use of a formal code to accomplish a purpose requires the receiver of the code to understand the rules and the meaning of the symbols, and be able to use the information received to accomplish a task. In the language of information science, the code must have a syntax and semantics. For the communication of information, the receiver must be in possession of that syntax and semantics, and possibly also a cipher to be able to decode the information. The receiver must also be able to carry out the task communicated



The Genetic Code in DNA
The instructions for the construction of proteins is written in DNA using the genetic code. More specifically, the sequence of bases bonded to the sugar phosphate backbone of the double helix contains information in the form of three-base codons that specify the sequence of amino acids to be used in the construction of proteins.





The Genetic Code

 

[Subduction Zone]

Totally biased atheistic peers have only one agenda-anti religion.

You should know that what you just posted is not true. There is no such bias. The creationists would. have a field day if there ever was such a bias.

You just did the same thing as admiting that you are wrong by writing such an obviously false post.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your own scientists consider it a code.

The genetic code

The genetic code by which DNA stores the genetic information consists of "codons" of three nucleotides. The functional segments of DNA which code for the transfer of genetic information are called genes. With four possible bases, the three nucleotides can give 43 = 64 different possibilities, and these combinations are used to specify the 20 different amino acids used by living organisms.

The ribonucleic acid (RNA) that is directly involved in the transcription of the pattern of bases from the DNA to provide a blueprint for the construction of proteins is called messenger RNA or typically mRNA. The pattern for protein synthesis is then read and translated into the language of amino acids for protein construction with the help of transfer RNA or tRNA.

The Genetic Code in Operation for Protein Construction
The use of a formal code to accomplish a purpose requires the receiver of the code to understand the rules and the meaning of the symbols, and be able to use the information received to accomplish a task. In the language of information science, the code must have a syntax and semantics. For the communication of information, the receiver must be in possession of that syntax and semantics, and possibly also a cipher to be able to decode the information. The receiver must also be able to carry out the task communicated



The Genetic Code in DNA
The instructions for the construction of proteins is written in DNA using the genetic code. More specifically, the sequence of bases bonded to the sugar phosphate backbone of the double helix contains information in the form of three-base codons that specify the sequence of amino acids to be used in the construction of proteins.

The Genetic Code

And you are making an equivocation error here.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Your own scientists consider it a code.

The genetic code

The genetic code by which DNA stores the genetic information consists of "codons" of three nucleotides. The functional segments of DNA which code for the transfer of genetic information are called genes. With four possible bases, the three nucleotides can give 43 = 64 different possibilities, and these combinations are used to specify the 20 different amino acids used by living organisms.

The ribonucleic acid (RNA) that is directly involved in the transcription of the pattern of bases from the DNA to provide a blueprint for the construction of proteins is called messenger RNA or typically mRNA. The pattern for protein synthesis is then read and translated into the language of amino acids for protein construction with the help of transfer RNA or tRNA.

The Genetic Code in Operation for Protein Construction
The use of a formal code to accomplish a purpose requires the receiver of the code to understand the rules and the meaning of the symbols, and be able to use the information received to accomplish a task. In the language of information science, the code must have a syntax and semantics. For the communication of information, the receiver must be in possession of that syntax and semantics, and possibly also a cipher to be able to decode the information. The receiver must also be able to carry out the task communicated



The Genetic Code in DNA
The instructions for the construction of proteins is written in DNA using the genetic code. More specifically, the sequence of bases bonded to the sugar phosphate backbone of the double helix contains information in the form of three-base codons that specify the sequence of amino acids to be used in the construction of proteins.





The Genetic Code

They call it a code for ease of communication and to make sense of this ginormous molecule.

But make no mistake... it is just a molecule.
The "letters" are conceptual representations of just molecules.

DNA is not a code in the sense of C++ being a code or english being a code.

You're just playing with words and ignoring the underlying concepts and realities.

And let's not forget that those same scientists consider ID to be no more then religion disguised in a lab-coat and evolution theory to be the backbone of biology and all related fields.

 

[Radrook]

They call it a code for ease of communication and to make sense of this ginormous molecule.

But make no mistake... it is just a molecule.
The "letters" are conceptual representations of just molecules.

DNA is not a code in the sense of C++ being a code or english being a code.

You're just playing with words and ignoring the underlying concepts and realities.

And let's not forget that those same scientists consider ID to be no more then religion disguised in a lab-coat and evolution theory to be the backbone of biology and all related fields.

They call it a code but you say that they don't mean a code? Sorry but between your very personal biased opinion and their clear objective scientific definition I will choose their clear, objective scientific definition. As for it not being a code, the diagrams speak for themselves.

 

[KCfromNC]

Totally biased atheistic peers have only one agenda-anti religion.

What does that assertion have to do with the request that you not make up stuff about other posters?

 

[KCfromNC]

They call it a code but you say that they don't mean a code?

Not in the sense that you wish they did - i.e. that it requires an intelligence as a source. Notice all of the things participating the process are just chemicals doing their thing.

 

[Radrook]

What does that assertion have to do with the request that you not make up stuff about other posters?

What is it that I am making up about other posters? Where is that request located?

 

[Radrook]

Not in the sense that you wish they did - i.e. that it requires an intelligence as a source. Notice all of the things participating the process are just chemicals doing their thing.

Just molecules doing their thing! Now that is the mother of all understatements! LOL! That brings into serious question of whether you really appreciate the staggering magnitude of what is involved. Obviously you do not.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

They call it a code but you say that they don't mean a code?

Are you aware of what analogies and metaphores are?

As for it not being a code, the diagrams speak for themselves.

The diagram is conceptualisation of a complex molecule.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Just molecules doing their thing! Now that is the mother of all understatements! LOL! That brings into serious question of whether you really appreciate the staggering magnitude of what is involved. Obviously you do not.

Your arguments of incredulity notwithstanding... yes, DNA is at bottom just a molecule engaged in a chemical reaction.

As Neil deGrass Tyson so eloquently put it once "life is but the extreme expression of complex chemistry".

DNA is a molecule operating according to the laws of physics and chemistry.
There is nothing happening at the genetic level that doesn't.

 

[Vaccine]

DNA is a molecule and no more of a code then any other chemical engaged in a (chain) reaction.

That isn't what scientists say:

"more than just a methaphor"
The Linguistics of DNA: Words, Sentences, Grammar, Phonetics, and Semantics

Integration of syntactic and semantic properties of the DNA code reveals chromosomes as thermodynamic machines converting energy into information

The Grammatical Rule of DNA Language - Springer

 

[KCfromNC]

What is it that I am making up about other posters? Where is that request located?

In the post you responded to when you wrote post 105. Didn't you read it before replying?

 

[KCfromNC]

Just molecules doing their thing! Now that is the mother of all understatements!

So where in the page you cited do they describe the supernatural magical intelligence you wish were involved in this process? Oh that's right, nowhere. The whole page is showing a simplified version of natural unintelligent processes at work. Using lots of exclamation points doesn't change that fact.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

That isn't what scientists say:

"more than just a methaphor"
The Linguistics of DNA: Words, Sentences, Grammar, Phonetics, and Semantics

Integration of syntactic and semantic properties of the DNA code reveals chromosomes as thermodynamic machines converting energy into information

The Grammatical Rule of DNA Language - Springer

Funny how none of these authors seem to be convinced that DNA was "written" by some intellect, but are all rather convinced that it evolved.

There is nothing in those papers that contradicts what I previously said.
What they do is for the purpose of simplifying and understanding the complexity of this molecule and how it works.

I'm well aware of their use of certain terminology.