DNA Code Indicates Creator

[TagliatelliMonster]

Nahhhhh!

Is this a response to the statement that the video mentions god many times?

There is plenty of very obvious and exceedingly compelling evidence

Such as?

and claiming that it doesn't exist will NEVER make it go away

I'm not claiming it doesn't exist. I'm just asking what it is.

I suggest that you simply accept it

Accept what? That you consistently fail to answer questions?

and learn to live with it instead of constantly playing the ridiculously hypocritically obvious and totally unconvincing selective blindness game.

Blind to what? The evidence you refuse to share?

 

[Speedwell]

Nahhhhh!

There is plenty of very obvious and exceedingly compelling evidence and claiming that it doesn't exist will NEVER make it go away regardless of how vehemently you and others with an aversion to an intelligent designer might claim that it doesn't. It is what it is amigo. I suggest that you simply accept it and learn to live with it instead of constantly playing the ridiculously hypocritically obvious and totally unconvincing selective blindness game.

So what's the wrap-up? Assume that we accepted your "intelligent design" argument. What then?

It is pretty clear that--just like the Discovery Institute--you are using ID as a cover for biblical creationism. But there is quite a distance between the "Intelligent Designer" and the magic Bible god of biblical creationism. What's your next step?

 

[Mike Lane]

Nahhhhh!

There is plenty of very obvious and exceedingly compelling evidence and claiming that it doesn't exist will NEVER make it go away regardless of how vehemently you and others with an aversion to an intelligent designer might claim that it doesn't. It is what it is amigo. I suggest that you simply accept it and learn to live with it instead of constantly playing the ridiculously hypocritically obvious and totally unconvincing selective blindness game.

That's called "projection", I suspect you are unhappy with your lot but feel you can do nothing about it, well that's not true because there is a lot you can do.
In the meantime I will think for you.

 

[HitchSlap]

Nahhhhh!

There is plenty of very obvious and exceedingly compelling evidence and claiming that it doesn't exist will NEVER make it go away regardless of how vehemently you and others with an aversion to an intelligent designer might claim that it doesn't. It is what it is amigo. I suggest that you simply accept it and learn to live with it instead of constantly playing the ridiculously hypocritically obvious and totally unconvincing selective blindness game.

Meh, if ID/creationism ever becomes necessary for the progression of science. Until then, you can leave it to the Hams & Hovindses.

 

[pitabread]

Looking at butterflies, hummingbirds, ants and all the various created animals, and man, and current nature, and the solar system, and universe, one cannot help but see a design.

If the entire universe and everything in it is designed, how would you tell the difference between design and non-design?

 

[pitabread]

Watched the video from the OP. It's probably been discussed already, but the flaw in the video is patently obvious.

The fundamental argument is that DNA contains information and information could only come from an intelligent source, therefore Goddidit.

The flaw in this reasoning is that at no point to they even attempt to explain what this "information" is. How is it defined? How does it specifically relate to DNA and the genome? How is it quantified? What is the unit measure? What would constitute an increase or decrease?

Instead, they rely on obfuscation around the term information and instead make vague references to language and stacks of books. Then they go on about how wondrous and amazing it is and how it could only have come from God (aka, the "awe and wonder" approach). Toss in a throw-away reference to information theory just to make it sound extra "science-y" and you have a perfect piece of creationist propaganda.

 

[KCfromNC]

If the entire universe and everything in it is designed, how would you tell the difference between design and non-design?

You're not supposed to ask questions, you're supposed to say Amen! and donate money to the right-wing political groups pushing ID.

 

[Loudmouth]

The flaw in this reasoning is that at no point to they even attempt to explain what this "information" is. How is it defined? How does it specifically relate to DNA and the genome? How is it quantified? What is the unit measure? What would constitute an increase or decrease?

The other flaw is the completely unsupported assertion that nature can't produce information as they define it. They seem stuck on the false argument that if humans make something nature can not make the same thing. This claim is falsified by many other observations. For example, man can make fire. Does that mean every fire is the product of intelligent design? Obviously not.

 

[KCfromNC]

The other flaw is the completely unsupported assertion that nature can't produce information as they define it.

Wait, they actually define information? I thought they kept it vague what they meant by that term to keep some form of plausible deniability when confronted with natural processes which do produce information.

 

[Loudmouth]

Wait, they actually define information? I thought they kept it vague what they meant by that term to keep some form of plausible deniability when confronted with natural processes which do produce information.

From what I can see, any string of DNA bases will meet their requirement of being "coded information".

 

[dad]

If the entire universe and everything in it is designed, how would you tell the difference between design and non-design?

Use God given intelligence.

 

[dad]

I see design. We disagree on the source.
I'll choose for the source that is supported by evidence.

You can go with the bronze age story.

What source would that be...the big fluke sequence?

 

[dad]

It is amazing that God is able to pack so much intelligence into a tiny little package like that. But then when animals start to get bigger and get to be the size of a cat then all of a sudden they get very stupid.

I see animals with an apparent capacity to love. That is very smart.

 

[dad]

Chaos? What chaos?

A universe without God if it were possible would be chaos.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

What source would that be...the big fluke sequence?

Reproduction with variation followed by natural selection.

You know... the process that shapes living things to fit their ever-changing habitat.

I won't pronounce the name given to this process by science, because I know it scares you.

 

[dad]

Reproduction with variation followed by natural selection.

You know... the process that shapes living things to fit their ever-changing habitat.

We do not know that Adam or Noah or the creatures of that time had the sort of reproduction or selection, or variation we know today.

I won't pronounce the name given to this process by science, because I know it scares you.

It is best called blind faith.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

We do not know that Adam or Noah or the creatures of that time had the sort of reproduction or selection, or variation we know today.

Characters in books, don't reproduce.

It is best called blind faith.

Right, right... and faith is bad, ha?

 

[dad]

Characters in books, don't reproduce.



Right, right... and faith is bad, ha?

Faith in lies is bad, faith in God and His words to man is good. But in any case faith is not science.

You have no way to deny the recorded history and people in Scripture, so calling them "in books" means nothing.

 

[Loudmouth]

Faith in lies is bad, faith in God and His words to man is good. But in any case faith is not science.

The Bible is the words of men. If you put faith in the Bible, then you are putting your faith in men.

You have no way to deny the recorded history and people in Scripture, so calling them "in books" means nothing.

You have no way of showing that they happened.

 

[dad]

The Bible is the words of men.

Your post is the words of men.

If you put faith in the Bible, then you are putting your faith in men.

Jesus rose from the dead in stark disagreement with your little ad hock philosophy.

You have no way of showing that they happened.

Yes I do, I ask God. He says look in the word I already gave you.