DNA Code Indicates Creator

[Radrook]

This video provides reasons why DNA is definite evidence that there is indeed a creator.

 

[Nithavela]

Classic argument from ignorance: It's complicated, therefore god.

Also, those are some really ugly dna depictions...

 

[Freodin]

Hm, is this one of these totally non-religious proponents of ID that I have heard of?

 

[Radrook]

Classic argument from ignorance: It's complicated, therefore god.

Also, those are some really ugly dna depictions...

Complication isn't the reason for the conclusion. So your statement is straw man.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Complication isn't the reason for the conclusion. So your statement is straw man.

No, he is correct.

 

[Radrook]

No, he is correct.

Then you are misunderstanding it as well.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Then you are misunderstanding it as well.

No, that is basically what every about God creating DNA boils down to: "It's complicated, so it must have been created."
There is nothing in DNA that supports the claim that it was created by a deity.

 

[aachen_hexagon]

Back in undergrad our Biochemistry teacher walked into class with a deadly serious look on his face and he said he had a very important film to show us about protein synthesis and DNA and RNA. Then he showed us this (make sure to start watching about 3' 11":

 

[Belk]

Complication isn't the reason for the conclusion. So your statement is straw man.

That was what I got from the video as well. If that is not the argument then can you paraphrase it for us please?

 

[Radrook]

That was what I got from the video as well. If that is not the argument then can you paraphrase it for us please?

If there were any deficiency in the explanations provided or if there were and vagueness or obscurity I might attempt to clarify. However, since I detect none of these it's impossible for me to improve what to me is already perfectly clear. So I guess we will just simply have to agree to disagree.

Please also note that my posting the video isn't an attempt at convincing atheists. My posting the videos is simply an attempt at edification of fellow Christians who will appreciate the information. Since this is a Christian website I find absolutely nothing unusual, unexpected or out context in doing so.

 

[Radrook]

No, that is basically what every about God creating DNA boils down to: "It's complicated, so it must have been created."
There is nothing in DNA that supports the claim that it was created by a deity.

Well, you are entitled to your opinion. So I guess we simply disagree. However, please keep in mind that disagreeing without offering any counterargument to any of the points brought out in the video isn't really any rebuttal of those points. It is merely a remark.

 

[Nithavela]

Well, you are entitled to your opinion. So I guess we simply disagree. However, please keep in mind that disagreeing without offering any counterargument to any of the points brought out in the video isn't really any rebuttal of those points. It is merely a remark.

How can one offer a counterargument to the points of the video if you don't even know what the points of the video are?

 

[Radrook]

How can one offer a counterargument to the points of the video if you don't even know what the points of the video are?

I don't have to be personally involved in your attempted rebuttal to any of the points in the video.
So your premise is seriously flawed.

 

[Belk]

If there were any deficiency in the explanations provided or if there were and vagueness or obscurity I might attempt to clarify. However, since I detect none of these it's impossible for me to improve what to me is already perfectly clear. So I guess we will just simply have to agree to disagree.

I did not ask you to improve upon it. I asked you to paraphrase it. However if you do not wish to attempt it we will indeed need to agree to disagree.

Please also note that my posting the video isn't an attempt at convincing atheists. My posting the videos is simply an attempt at edification of fellow Christians who will appreciate the information. Since this is a Christian website I find absolutely nothing unusual, unexpected or out context in doing so.

Odd then that you did not post it in the Christian only section.

 

[Nithavela]

I don't have to be personally involved in your attempted rebuttal to any of the points in the video.
So your premise is seriously flawed.

The counterargument has already been made, you just chose to shoot it down by claiming it a strawman, so you were actually the one involving yourself.

 

[Radrook]

I did not ask you to improve upon it. I asked you to paraphrase it. However if you do not wish to attempt it we will indeed need to agree to disagree.



Odd then that you did not post it in the Christian only section.

It is not restricted to Christians only because it is based on science. So you are quite welcomed to offer your opinions and attempted rebuttals.

BTW
I find the whole presence of atheists on this Christian website as odd.

 

[Radrook]

The counterargument has already been made, you just chose to shoot it down by claiming it a strawman, so you were actually the one involving yourself.

Yes, but I am the one who determines the degree of that involvement. When someone uses a strawman he forces me to call it a strawman. So it isn't really a voluntary choice. Furthermore, if indeed an argument is simply a strawman, it isn't really a counterargument at all since it argues against something else and is therefore totally irrelevant..

BTW
I only attempt paraphrasing with messages or information that is expressed in a very unclear fashion or for people who might be mentally handicapped in some way. There is absolutely NOTHING unclear in the manner in which the video is expressed and neither do I consider the atheists here mentally challenged in understanding plain English.

 

[Belk]

It is not restricted to Christians only because it is based on science. So you are quite welcomed to offer your opinions and attempted rebuttals.

No, it is not restricted to Christians because it is in the small section non Christians can post in. You are aware there is a Christian only CREVO section?

BTW
I find the whole presence of atheists on this Christian website as odd.

A lot of us are from back when other points of view were more accepted on the website.

 

[Radrook]

No, it is not restricted to Christians because it is in the small section non Christians can post in. You are aware there is a Christian only CREVO section?



A lot of us are from back when other points of view were more accepted on the website.

I am not attempting to restrict feedback to Christians as you are claiming. Atheists are quite welcomed to express their opinions and attempt rebuttals.

 

[Belk]

I am not attempting to restrict feedback to Christians as you are claiming.

I made no such claim.

Atheists are quite welcomed to express their opinions and attempt rebuttals.

Then why are you stating it was posted only as an edification to Christians?