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Divine Revelations or Delusions?

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Only the souls go to heaven or hell while bodies lie in graves. We will all be raised either to life or damnation.

This much we agree somewhat ... I believe souls go on to have a foretaste of what they can expect to experience after the final judgement.

Those that rise to damnation will be everlastingly abhorred. The lake of fire seems will be in Edom and God will
be angry with the people there forever. Do you sit and cry over the lost angels
in chains in hell? Wonder if they are hungry? How many years have they gone without food? Angels in heaven had bread...manna. The lost souls are the same type of scenes...Jesus did not even name to us the rich man that went to hell. When it is time for the new earth...some living people will be told that He
never knew them.

We will have to agree to disagree on much of this.

I believe that God is LOVE, and loves even sinners. They may well reject Him - He also grants them free will. But the God I know will still love them, though any who hate Him will want no part of that and will suffer because of His love.

But I can in no way reconcile a "God" who gloats over suffering. He said that He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked.
 
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What would you say is happening in the last verses of Isaiah 66? What time is this set for?
Why are the men that transgressed against God being abhorred? This is the same meaning as "contempt" found in Daniel 12:2?
It tells how some will rise to shame and everlasting contempt.

More importantly, how did Christ treat the woman who was brought to Him, having been caught in the very act of committing adultery?

Christ is God revealed to us, directly, in the flesh. Any reading of any prophet which leads us to form a contrary image of God is our misunderstanding.

If our image of God is not exactly like Christ, we are in error.
 
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Have you ever noticed that people's "revelations" often fit what they already believe, at least in certain ways?

I read a couple out of mild curiosity. Some I recognize as book titles that I have read and movies I have seen over the years.

There may be things in them that happen to be true. One I read just now had some truths in it - we must actually FOLLOW Christ, not just confess Him. But we all pretty much agree on that, I would think. But it also depicted a Christ who seemed rather unmoved by the suffering of those in hell -- which I really have to question why they are in "eternal hell" right now, since the final judgement has not happened. Are we to imagine that God places them in hell for many years, centuries, however long, only to bring them out, carry out the final judgement, then send them right back? Theoretically possible, but rather odd. But the part that really gets me? Demons gleefully enjoying themselves torturing disobedient Christians. When did hell become a satanic amusement park for demons? Don't the people who received these revelations wonder whether God didn't want to punish the demons at least as much as He wanted to punish the Christians they caused to stumble? Does that strike anyone besides me as really odd?

I think Dante has had quite an influence on some people's theology.

What is your view on Howard Pittman?
 
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