Distinctive Doctrines that DEFINE the SDA denomination as a distinct entity

[BobRyan]

Interesting article on Wikipedia : Pillars of Adventism - Wikipedia

Says this:
"the Pillars of Adventism are landmark doctrines for Seventh-day Adventists; Bible doctrines that define who they are as a people of faith; doctrines that are "non-negotiables" in Adventist theology. The Seventh-day Adventist church teaches that these Pillars are needed to prepare the world for the second coming of Jesus Christ, and sees them as a central part of its own mission. Adventists teach that the Seventh-day Adventist Church doctrines were both a continuation of the reformation started in the 16th century and a movement of the end time rising from the Millerites, bringing God's final messages and warnings to a world.
Contents

• 1 The Pillars of Adventism
• 2 Seven Distinctive SDA Doctrines
  • 2.1 The faith of Jesus (Righteousness of Christ)
  • 2.2 The Three Angels' Messages
  • 2.3 The special gift of prophecy
  • 2.4 The law of God's love
  • 2.5 The Sabbath
  • 2.6 The investigative judgment and the sanctuary service
  • 2.7 The state of the dead (and the Millennium)
  • 2.8 Overview

To me it is a little odd that they lump "state of the dead" and the Millennium - together. I think the wiki article should have had something like "Pre-mill Rapture as The Second Coming event" - which does get to the topic of the Millennium - and then "State of the dead" as its own link/topic

 

[BobRyan]

what are your thoughts?

 

[Enilorac]

what are your thoughts?

I'm still a newbie, starting to learn but the first thing I looked up after listening to Doug Batchelor was the SDA official webpage. What I read made sense. I can't explain it, it just made sense. So, I've dived further into SDA doctrine and still can't find a showstopper. I firmly believe that the SDA has it right in so many ways, including the emphasis on education. So, unless or until I find something that stands out to me as non-biblical, I will continue on my path into the SDA. It just works for me. I've found tremendous community in my church, it's amazing to get emails, texts and phone calls from folks who just want to say "I'm thinking of you and praying for you"...never, ever had that before in any church community. The pastors are all about "call if you need ANYTHING" and I know they mean it. I walk into the church and feel folded into love.

 

[BobRyan]

I'm still a newbie, starting to learn but the first thing I looked up after listening to Doug Batchelor was the SDA official webpage. What I read made sense. I can't explain it, it just made sense. So, I've dived further into SDA doctrine and still can't find a showstopper. I firmly believe that the SDA has it right in so many ways, including the emphasis on education. So, unless or until I find something that stands out to me as non-biblical, I will continue on my path into the SDA. It just works for me. I've found tremendous community in my church, it's amazing to get emails, texts and phone calls from folks who just want to say "I'm thinking of you and praying for you"...never, ever had that before in any church community. The pastors are all about "call if you need ANYTHING" and I know they mean it. I walk into the church and feel folded into love.

Amen! I am happy you are on the right path.

 

[Enilorac]

By contrast SDAs talk about the Bible - and how it shows our Fundamental Beliefs to be correct.

I've listened to heaven knows how many hours of SDA preaching lately (like AFTV and 3ABN all day every day) and the mentions of anyone or anything else besides the Godhead and scripture, I think I could count on one hand. The only talk I remember that quoted other writers outside the bible was the one about health and nutrition. But, in that one, many experts were quoted, AFTER the scriptural reasons to avoid certain foods. I'll admit that giving up shrimp will be tough, but considering I refuse to eat seafood that has been in transit for more than 24 hours, it's not a big deal. Now, if I still lived on the east coast, it might be a little rougher. Here in the frozen tundra of Colorado, not a big deal.

Hi, I'm Enilorac and I'm a AFTV/3ABN junkie!

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I'm still a newbie, starting to learn but the first thing I looked up after listening to Doug Batchelor was the SDA official webpage. What I read made sense. I can't explain it, it just made sense. So, I've dived further into SDA doctrine and still can't find a showstopper. I firmly believe that the SDA has it right in so many ways, including the emphasis on education. So, unless or until I find something that stands out to me as non-biblical, I will continue on my path into the SDA. It just works for me. I've found tremendous community in my church, it's amazing to get emails, texts and phone calls from folks who just want to say "I'm thinking of you and praying for you"...never, ever had that before in any church community. The pastors are all about "call if you need ANYTHING" and I know they mean it. I walk into the church and feel folded into love.

Have you read the Richest Caveman by Doug? He has talks about his life in the cave on TV, but the book goes into so much more detail. It is amazing how the Holy Spirit worked through him. From living in a cave to where Doug is today with his church and the direction he took Amazing Facts, it's an incredible story. God bless!

 

[Enilorac]

@SabbathBlessings As soon as my finances get better, I'm planning to buy that book. Right now my budget for new books is zero. Its ok though I have hundreds here.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

@SabbathBlessings As soon as my finances get better, I'm planning to buy that book. Right now my budget for new books is zero. Its ok though I have hundreds here.

I'm PMing you!

 

[SabbathBlessings]

x

 

[Enilorac]

@BobRyan I'll start the study this September. Once everyone gets through the whole summer/back to school thing, they'll start. I have a feeling I'm going to be REALLY busy this fall. I'm going back to school myself to finish my mechanical engineering degree, teaching 2 AutoCAD classes, then there's bible study at church. Oh, and I have to take the CAPM test so I can teach that class too. I know I'll REALLY be looking forward to the Sabbath by then...a chance to ditch the books and relax!

 

[BobRyan]

@BobRyan I'll start the study this September. Once everyone gets through the whole summer/back to school thing, they'll start. I have a feeling I'm going to be REALLY busy this fall. I'm going back to school myself to finish my mechanical engineering degree, teaching 2 AutoCAD classes, then there's bible study at church. Oh, and I have to take the CAPM test so I can teach that class too. I know I'll REALLY be looking forward to the Sabbath by then...a chance to ditch the books and relax!

whew - sounds busy busy! I had to step down from my software dev life and press the "retire" button recently - so now I have "more time" for things like this in my day.

 

[BobRyan]

Does "church fathers" = Scripture?

Christ address this in Mark 7:6-13 proving that there is such a thing as tradition getting crossways with scripture -
Mark 7
6 And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),’ 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”

 

[Enilorac]

@BobRyan I grew up Catholic...I know all about those traditions that are doctrines of men not of God. #1 reason I left that behind...I finally bought a bible and actually READ it!

 

[BobRyan]

@BobRyan I grew up Catholic...I know all about those traditions that are doctrines of men not of God. #1 reason I left that behind...I finally bought a bible and actually READ it!

I have to admit - I really like the way you think.

The SDA evangelist Mark Finley is another person that grew up in a somewhat Catholic home (his mother was Catholic and his father was SDA) then had to decide which way to go as a young man.

 

[Enilorac]

I have to admit - I really like the way you think.

Thank you good sir, I truly appreciate that.

 

[Joy]

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