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Some cannot ever agree with you/your posts/ unless they leave their family-church.
Never compromise yourself to agree with anything contrary to Jesus.
Your/our/believers unity is only possible in Jesus with nothing contrary.
Nothing contrary. That's me
 
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The true church? There is no true church only true believers. They all have erred.
... and we all must be becoming like little children to whom the Father is delighted to reveal salvation that He Himself Hides from the educated ones, as Jesus Himself Says.
 
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... and we all must be becoming like little children to whom the Father is delighted to reveal salvation that He Himself Hides from the educated ones, as Jesus Himself Says.
Well said.
 
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That claim goes back to Paul (really back to our Lord's establishment of the Church and prayer for Christians to be one) and isn't unique to Catholicism.

On the contrary, it urges us to join the true Church. What causes divisions and makes unity impossible is the modern liberal ecumenism that became popular in the 20th century where you have your truth, I have my truth, and we all sit in a circle and sing kumbaya and never actually resolve the problem of disunity.
Yes, and then there's the doctrine of Sola Scriptura which has arguably caused more division within Christianity than any other source.
 
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The gates of hell didn't prevail against me
You must have read the wrong text, Jesus didn't say "the gates of hell will not prevail against Soldier of Light," he said they wouldn't prevail against the Church.
I'm not going to read all that. Just explain it to me.
Your inability to spend some time reading even a Wikipedia summary of the document in question, much less the document itself, doesn't bode well for anyone who would spend more time summarizing the document than you would dismissing it.
It doesn't matter. I'm not here to make a federal case out of it. I gave my opinion.
What does Scripture say about those who don't delight in understanding, but only in giving their own opinions?
 
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You must have read the wrong text, Jesus didn't say "the gates of hell will not prevail against Soldier of Light," he said they wouldn't prevail against the Church.

Your inability to spend some time reading even a Wikipedia summary of the document in question, much less the document itself, doesn't bode well for anyone who would spend more time summarizing the document than you would dismissing it.

What does Scripture say about those who don't delight in understanding, but only in giving their own opinions?
I read the wiki but missed what I asked for. It doesn't matter. Have a good morning
 
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As for being foolish, questions make one wise and a wise man is patient to teach others. I'm not going to read all that. Just explain it to me. Maybe you will change my mind
I’ve given you a link to read it for yourself AND some summaries. It’s you who says “I’m not going to read all that”. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink.
 
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