Truth7t7
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The fact of the matter is the QUOTE of Iranaeus below, isn't even close to suggesting a pre-trib rapture.I was not in the least hesitant. I was simply refusing to yield to your demands that I post again what I had already posted, and even explicitly told you where I posted it. I finally posted it again in a place and way where your cavils would be forbidden. And if you are unable to understand the clear, plain English of my posted, clearly demonstrating why this was actually a pre trib statement, that is your problem.
Writer you can look for straw, but there isn't any to grab.
You were so confident of your citation you took it to the Futurist safehouse, so no opposition could be posted.
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Finally found one of your claims the ECF taught a pre-trib rapture below?
Iranaeus clearly states "The Last Contest Is The Tribulation" when the Church goes through this they will overcome and be caught up, just as all Ahmillenialist believe.
No wonder you were hesitant in providing this claim, Iranaeus believed just as I do.
Writer how far will one go, bending and twisting trying desperately to make a square block fit in a round hole?
Biblewriter Posted: Here we find a clear teaching of a pre-tribulation rapture.
“Those nations however, who did not of themselves raise up their eyes unto heaven, nor returned thanks to their Maker, nor wished to behold the light of truth, but who were like blind mice concealed in the depths of ignorance, the word justly reckons ‘as waste water from a sink, and as the turning-weight of a balance—in fact, as nothing;’ so far useful and serviceable to the just, as stubble conduces towards the growth of the wheat, and its straw, by means of combustion, serves for working gold. And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, ‘There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.’ For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when they overcome they are crowned with incorruption.” (“Against Heresies”, Book V, chapter 29, paragraph 1, From “Ante-Nicean Fathers,” ed. Alexander Roberts, D.D. and James Donaldson, D.D., Edinburgh, 1884.)
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