Discerning of Spirits

[Don loves Jesus]

I’m a new Christian, about 5 months old, 2 weeks after receiving Christ I received the gift of Spirit Discernment. I can sometimes see sins of people, sometimes I can see what type of sins (i.e. lust, idol worship, etc), and I can see when a person is controlled by the enemy, and I can see when a person is possessed.

I am under developed in this gift because I’m so new, sometimes I get it wrong and it confuses me.. I’ve read up on this topic already and have spoken to my church leaders, but I’ve yet met anyone who has this gift who can share their experience with me, I was wondering if anyone here can share.

I thank God for giving me this gift, but I would really love meet someone of Spirit Discernment so I don’t feel so isolated with it.

Please write to me ONLY IF YOU HAVE this gift, thank you.

God bless.

 

[wayseer]

I’m a new Christian, about 5 months old, 2 weeks after receiving Christ I received the gift of Spirit Discernment. I can sometimes see sins of people, sometimes I can see what type of sins (i.e. lust, idol worship, etc), and I can see when a person is controlled by the enemy, and I can see when a person is possessed.

At 5 months 2 weeks what makes you so sure you have this so-called 'discernment'?

You see Don, one of the things you will learn to understand is that those who tell don't know and those who know don't tell. Sorry to break the bubble.

I would rather you ground yourself in a set of teachings that will provide a more solid foundation on which you can make your own call. That will take time and some effort. You are wanting to run before you have learnt to walk. God is in no rush - he's taken about 15 million years to get this far, a few more years is not a great ask.

 

[drich0150]

Spiritual discernment is a gift most of us get at some degree or another. i do know what your trying to communicate though.. That your "gift" exceeds the general allotment for "spiritual discernment." But this gift like any other is prone to also exceed God's glory, and can become a gift of self promotion. It all depends on how and why you choose to use this gift. Paul had a similar situation with the church at Corinth. His message focused on "tongues, and prophesy" and how one edified the individual and the other edified the whole church.. He also speaks of When, and why to use your gift in 1Co 14 (the whole chapter)

I say that to get us both on the same page.. Your gift in "advanced spiritual discernment" is like Intro to Wisdom 101. But the thing with wisdom is it tends to consume all those who wield it without God.. Look at Solomon, when he turned his back on his foundation he was consumed by his own self righteousness.. With Great wisdom there needs to be a Greater humility.. I think this is why you haven't found many people with your gift. either they mature into wise and humble servants, and are either busy at their posts.. Or perhaps haven't taken the time to look at there beginnings.. The other reason many people don't stay where you are spiritually is that the "Evil One" knows how dangerous people like you are, and have made it a high priority to burn you out on your own pride, and self righteousness.

So it should be with a heavy heart that you goto God in prayer to ask him to carefully help you discern this gift, and help you realize it's full potential. Don't focus on the "parlor tick" aspect of your gift.. Identifying peoples "sin" is only half of what this gift can do.. Unfortunately it is complete in that it can be a way to drive a wedge between your heart and the Holy Spirit.

If you have any specific questions feel free to ask.

Good luck and God bless.

 

[Angeloffire]

Welcome to CF Don!

Hey, that is so cool that you have that gift. It is meant to bless others by discerning where their spiritual needs are at and more! I do have the gift too and pm'ed you....and Paul said for us to seek the gifts too, so anyone who wants to discern what spirit is up and what it is doing should go for it!

Lots of Blessings,

AOF

 

[DreamsAreFree]

You have said you are sometimes wrong - that is enough for me to doubt you have this gift. God is NEVER wrong. The Holy Spirit is NEVER wrong.

I can discern evil spirits and sources of oppression but I use that to minister to the person without disclosing it.

 

[Angeloffire]

People sometimes accidentally come from the wrong spirit in them when operating in the gifts. This is why Paul said that when someone was operating in a gift to have others stand by. If a person can speak a prophecy from a false spirit occasionally then for sure the other gifts get a hit and miss too.

Like the gift of healing. It is perfectly acceptable that not everyone gets healed.....even though they lay hands on them all. Odviously it wasn't a 100 percent thing.

Blessings,

AOF

 

[wonderwaleye]

When you prepare yourself and give your WHOLE life over to GOD, HE will send HIS HOLY SPIRIT upon you. When this happens you SHALL have:
1. GUIDE
2. COMFORTER
3. COMUNICATOR
4. TEACHER


In other words you shall have a direct line to the KINGDOM of ALMIGHTY GOD. For it is then you will need no new teacher:

1 John
Chapter 2

26
I write you these things about those who would deceive you.
27
As for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, so that you do not need anyone to teach you. But his anointing teaches you about everything and is true and not false; just as it taught you, remain in him.

In order to understand GOD'S WORD it is a good idea to read it till the next time you read it you will already know what it's going to say. For then it's locked in your heart.

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[DreamsAreFree]

The OT prophets were always spot on. No hit and miss there. If there is hit and miss one should stay silent until they have learned discernment on their discerning. I never speak words of knowledge or prophecy unless I am 100% certain.

When one thinks, especially a new Christian, that they are seeing the sin of people they need to be careful. Churches have actually been sued over words of knowledge and so on.

 

[FrederickM]

I can't help but feel some doubt due to the way you've posted, though it is also in part my judgemental nature.

Good Luck on your quest of discerning of spirits.

 

[kellyc]

i can also usually tell what sins people are dealing with, but it's probably because i have done them! also, people don't usually hide things very well. i have never considered that to be anything other than observational powers. however, a verse that has helped me to keep things in perspective is
matthew 7:3
And why behold you the mote that is in your brother's eye, but consider not the beam that is in your own eye?

 

[tturt]

Yes, all believers have a gift and we do have a learning curve - in fact, I think we need to continue to learn. Just remember in the operation of all gifts, direction comes from Yahweh on a case by case basis. Discerning of spirits (as well as other gifts) doesn't operate on a 24/7 basis. For example, those with the gift of healing are often given direction on who to pray for at a particular time. Sometimes with the discerning of spirits it's to pray for them - in your prayer closet. It isn't the "ministry of correction of others" as some think.

We're all a work in progress and believers grow at different rates. As you know, we pursue loving Him and others as ourselves as our primary.

 

[Don loves Jesus]

At 5 months 2 weeks what makes you so sure you have this so-called 'discernment'?

You see Don, one of the things you will learn to understand is that those who tell don't know and those who know don't tell. Sorry to break the bubble.

I would rather you ground yourself in a set of teachings that will provide a more solid foundation on which you can make your own call. That will take time and some effort. You are wanting to run before you have learnt to walk. God is in no rush - he's taken about 15 million years to get this far, a few more years is not a great ask.

Wayseer,

Fortunately I've not logged onto this website for years. If I had read your message back then, I would be really bitter and hurt about the judgement you've made about me.

Yes those who know don't tell but as I said, I was new and had no idea what was happening to me as God was teaching me to see with spiritual eyes. And btw, it is not that I wasn't trying to ground myself in biblical teaching, it is because I was given the gift before I had a clue what was happening to me and I was looking for answers.

I know there are people out there that chases only after the gifts of the spirit which is dangerous because it is not out of love and out of a heart of witchcraft. But your message had unfairly judged me, given the fact that I was only 5 months old back then, I didn't even know there were people out there who chases only the gifts of the spirit for selfish gain.

I was speaking from a pure heart, not one that wanted to exalt oneself or gain credit. I'm sure there are others like me, but because some of you long time Christians have had bad experiences or may think you know better, you may see things through tinted glasses and become judgemental, citical and even condemning like the pharisees.

 

[Don loves Jesus]

You have said you are sometimes wrong - that is enough for me to doubt you have this gift. God is NEVER wrong. The Holy Spirit is NEVER wrong.

I can discern evil spirits and sources of oppression but I use that to minister to the person without disclosing it.

Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away. 1 Cor 13:8-10

1. God is never wrong agree, but we're are not yet made perfect.
2. We know in part and we prophesy in part, there needs to be accountablility to ministry, one cannot impose what they discern over another. I'm not sure what you mean about not disclosing it, do you mean you just interecede as a burden bearer, or do you mean you minister through a prayer session? And you're never wrong?? I've not met a person who's never wrong, unless he's Jesus.

 

[like eagleswings]

I’m a new Christian, about 5 months old, 2 weeks after receiving Christ I received the gift of Spirit Discernment. I can sometimes see sins of people, sometimes I can see what type of sins (i.e. lust, idol worship, etc), and I can see when a person is controlled by the enemy, and I can see when a person is possessed.

I am under developed in this gift because I’m so new, sometimes I get it wrong and it confuses me.. I’ve read up on this topic already and have spoken to my church leaders, but I’ve yet met anyone who has this gift who can share their experience with me, I was wondering if anyone here can share.

I thank God for giving me this gift, but I would really love meet someone of Spirit Discernment so I don’t feel so isolated with it.

Please write to me ONLY IF YOU HAVE this gift, thank you.

God bless.

be carefafull how you use it,i seen leaders get a broken nose for
confronting poeples sins,i dont understand why a babe in christ would be given info on peoples private live from god,dont seem right to me

 

[Don loves Jesus]

i can also usually tell what sins people are dealing with, but it's probably because i have done them! also, people don't usually hide things very well. i have never considered that to be anything other than observational powers. however, a verse that has helped me to keep things in perspective is
matthew 7:3
And why behold you the mote that is in your brother's eye, but consider not the beam that is in your own eye?

There's a difference between reading another's body's language to it being God given by gifts through His Spirit. It's two different thing, one from the flesh the other from the Spirit. One may be innate with sensitivity to his/her environment, God can choose to use this sensitivity for the purpose of edifying His Church, but this takes God's personal training/impartation of knowledge, not obersvational powers which comes from guessing from your fleshf.

I wasn't trying to pick at the speck off my brother's eyes, it's not the point of my question and post. It's a genuine enquiry, not trying to burn the church down with accussations and devision.

 

[Don loves Jesus]

be carefafull how you use it,i seen leaders get a broken nose for
confronting poeples sins,i dont understand why a babe in christ would be given info on peoples private live from god,dont seem right to me

After reading all replies I can't help but have tears in my eyes and pain in my heart for people's judgemental words, revealing the fears in their hearts.

Some of you doubt the possiblity that God can give gifts to a young christian, some of you think you've broken my bubble like I'm a fake, or I'm only here to show off my gift. Some of you think I'm here to pick at the speck of brother's eye. Not many of you looked at my enquiry out of a pure heart by taking it at face value. Most of you have gone off track and became bais.

This shows the condition of the human heart.

What happened to -

6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. ??

There maybe wolves in the pack, but dont burn down the sheep for the fear of wolves.

 

[Theofane]

At 5 months 2 weeks what makes you so sure you have this so-called 'discernment'?

You see Don, one of the things you will learn to understand is that those who tell don't know and those who know don't tell. Sorry to break the bubble.

I would rather you ground yourself in a set of teachings that will provide a more solid foundation on which you can make your own call. That will take time and some effort. You are wanting to run before you have learnt to walk. God is in no rush - he's taken about 15 million years to get this far, a few more years is not a great ask.

5 months, 2 weeks is plenty of time for the Spirit to move in a person! Your comments strike me as very arrogant and condescending towards Don!

 

[drjean]

Let me say that I fully understand what you're saying. My advice is to keep it quiet (yes, I guess you've learned that) and share it only when you need to and only with someone who is more wise than you (such as a mentor who's proven himself?)

Second, you need to work on blocking the information. This ability will overwhelm you, and make you a judge that you really don't want to be. You know how it goes, don't get to know your friends too well because they'll be something about them that disappoints you and you'll lose them as a friend.

You don't need this information for now, anyway. Being a new Christian, you need to work on your own practical knowledge of the Bible. Perhaps as you grow in the Lord, He will reveal why you need this gift. Of course, as you witness to others, it will help as background information (I wouldn't share it directly at all though). Plus, as you said, you aren't always correct, so continue to work on understanding what it is you're discerning.

But truly, learning to block the information is crucial to maintaining a good balance of Spirit, imo.

Be well.

 

[like eagleswings]

After reading all replies I can't help but have tears in my eyes and pain in my heart for people's judgemental words, revealing the fears in their hearts.

Some of you doubt the possiblity that God can give gifts to a young christian, some of you think you've broken my bubble like I'm a fake, or I'm only here to show off my gift. Some of you think I'm here to pick at the speck of brother's eye. Not many of you looked at my enquiry out of a pure heart by taking it at face value. Most of you have gone off track and became bais.

This shows the condition of the human heart.

What happened to -

6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. ??

There maybe wolves in the pack, but dont burn down the sheep for the fear of wolves.

WHAT
why dont you go and ask your elder or pastor,as they are the ones who should help you in this . why ask advice on a forum,then

 

[PaladinValer]

Wayseer,

Fortunately I've not logged onto this website for years. If I had read your message back then, I would be really bitter and hurt about the judgement you've made about me.

Yes those who know don't tell but as I said, I was new and had no idea what was happening to me as God was teaching me to see with spiritual eyes. And btw, it is not that I wasn't trying to ground myself in biblical teaching, it is because I was given the gift before I had a clue what was happening to me and I was looking for answers.

I know there are people out there that chases only after the gifts of the spirit which is dangerous because it is not out of love and out of a heart of witchcraft. But your message had unfairly judged me, given the fact that I was only 5 months old back then, I didn't even know there were people out there who chases only the gifts of the spirit for selfish gain.

I was speaking from a pure heart, not one that wanted to exalt oneself or gain credit. I'm sure there are others like me, but because some of you long time Christians have had bad experiences or may think you know better, you may see things through tinted glasses and become judgemental, citical and even condemning like the pharisees.

Very defensive of you to say this to Wayseer and to others.

I disagree a lot with Wayseer, but if you really had a gift of discernment, you'd see he was in no way being rude or insulting towards you. His concern is genuine, his argument perfectly sound (and Scripturally-based), and his temperment, based on his wording, is mild.

I do have a gift of discernment. You, based on this response alone, do not. Your defensiveness is proof that you don't have such a charismata.

I would encourage you to discover the gifts that you do possess and enrich the Kingdom with them. Everyone has their place and no one is greater or lesser than another. You have a place and it is vital and important; I'm certain you probably truly know deep inside where it is, and I encourage you to embrace it!

This isn't judgmentalism; this is observation. Please learn the difference.