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Every event no matter how simple or complex, is directly caused by previous events. Storms don't just happen, volcanoes don't just erupt, resist the urge to see these events as random events.
Hello Speedwell.Random does not mean uncaused.
The lottery is random with respect to the tickets.
Random does not mean uncaused.
In scientific discourse "random" simply means "unpredictable." It does not mean uncaused or without purpose.Hello Speedwell.
Please explain what you mean.
That should be evidence that your assertion that evolution is intended to deny God is just the slander you intended it to be.But evolution means uncaused. That's the core, essential point behind evolution; there was no God, designer, or intelligence behind any of it. I am genuinely surprised that so many atheists are allowing you to get away with saying that evolution has a designer behind it.
Why do so many Creationists think they're mind readers?
Only because you are trying to perpetrate the lie that the theory of evolution denies the existence of God.
The problem is, that the term "creationist" has been tainted by its association with Fundamentalist Protestantism and other Christians don't like to use it.
No, that would be an asinine association because evolution most assuredly doesn't "teach" anything about God and it would depend on what sort of atheism you're talking about.
And, I never said that evolution has a "designer" behind it--I said it had God behind it.
Nope. Evolution at its core is an explanation for how we came to be here without any intelligence, design, or intent behind it all.
...which is why your post#215 applauding him was so carefully written as to not include any reference to evolution. Instead, you talked about "the story that the Creation itself is telling him".
Do you deny that random events occur?Hello Ophiolite.
You made an interesting statement.
How could anyone make the claim, that an event is a random event?
Is it possible for an event to occur without a prior cause?
But evolution means uncaused. That's the core, essential point behind evolution; there was no God, designer, or intelligence behind any of it.
Exactly. This is exactly the kind of confusion I've been talking about. There is a God behind it but he didn't do anything? Lol, wth are you really saying!!!! *tears hair out*
He doesn't want you all to mistakenly think he's one of those weirdos, so he steers well clear of calling it creation, just to avoid any possible blowback. Instead, he uses vernacular which will be more pleasing to Atheism, like evolution.
-_- mostly, a generalized prayer without names. However, due to my cultural background, whenever specified, it has been to Yahweh, or, to a lesser extent, Jesus.After talking a look at your profile, I have to ask:
To whom? what is His name?
Yes, we get that you believe this. What we're all telling you is that you are completely, 100% wrong in your belief. I have no idea where you got this idea about evolution. You can't point to a dictionary definition that includes anything about a lack of intent. You can't find it in textbooks or scientific papers. What you are talking about is simply not what scientists mean when they use the word "evolution". I work in a viral evolution group, and I'm affiliated with an evolutionary biology department. I've listened to, talked to and read papers by hundreds or thousands of biologists studying evolution, and the number who expressed or implied anything like this is exactly zero.Nope. Evolution at its core is an explanation for how we came to be here without any intelligence, design, or intent behind it all.
Because, according to you guys, evolution only deals with life AFTER it appeared.Could you please address this fundamental question: why do you think evolution at its core rules out any intelligence, design, or intent behind it?
As has been pointed out, random doesn't mean uncaused. Although, as I understand it, there is a question mark over the direct cause of a radioactive decay at the level of an individual atom.Every event no matter how simple or complex, is directly caused by previous events. Storms don't just happen, volcanoes don't just erupt, resist the urge to see these events as random events.
Centuries ago, people looked upon a magical world, a world without an intricate causation. Things just happened, well as our learning has increased, we have discovered. That there is indeed causes behind so many events, that we once viewed as random events.
You miss the point - the numbers drawn may not be random, but that doesn't matter; as long as there's no way for participants to discover the numbers before buying their tickets, the lottery is random from their perspective.The numbers that feature in any lottery draw, are certainly not the result of a random event. Though the complexity of the draw is profound, nevertheless utterly predictable when all the variables are known.
That the creative act of God had nothing to do with design as carried out by human engineers, so the word is inappropriate. Nor would I want to risk being associated with the fascist extremists at the Discovery Institute who invented Intelligent Design as a cover for their political agenda.Exactly. This is exactly the kind of confusion I've been talking about. There is a God behind it but he didn't do anything? Lol, wth are you really saying!!!! *tears hair out*
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