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Calculations, yes, non physical evidence, yes. If you want science, that can not disprove or prove any spiritual, or unknown future, etc. That leaves me with as much as you in that little department!Natro said:I am calling BS. Dad can you prove or even submit evidence or calculations of any of what your claiming?
So because I don't know 100% what happened and what will happen what you say what happened and what will happen is true.dad said:Have you that it didn't? Have you even any reason to suggest that a new eternal heavens with the spiritual and physical are not coming one day? No, you don't.
dad said:Why wouldn't they? They are in the PO universe!
The physical only universe from 162,000 years ago, yes. Can you point me to the supernova that are part of the spiritual universe?
Certain areas were first to be impacted in the process that seperated the physical from the spiritual. Supernovas, for example. They exploded, and were first to be physical only in the split process itself! The universe around these zones took a little while to be left as physical only, so were still merged. That is why the PO explosion was carried quickly along the light highway as it were, towards earth, but not all the way. The process was complete before it reached us. This means it was still on the way, and had some way to go as the process ended! The PO 1987a therefore would be expected to be a PO explosion, yet, the still merged portion of the universe between here and there relayed the event faster than it could in the present!
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All presented without even a shred of evidence. Why should I be surprised?
Ok give me these claculations and I am sure you have submited them for peer reviews that you can also show me. If not then your just a man shouting the internet saying things he can't prove are true like they are true.dad said:Calculations, yes, non physical evidence, yes. If you want science, that can not disprove or prove any spiritual, or unknown future, etc. That leaves me with as much as you in that little department!
dad said:Calculations, yes, non physical evidence, yes. If you want science, that can not disprove or prove any spiritual, or unknown future, etc. That leaves me with as much as you in that little department!
You don't know 1% by reason of any science we have. So when your old age tales scare poor little children with how they will die, and the sun and stars will burn out, etc. while at the same time not allowing hope of other beliefs, it is tragic.Natro said:So because I don't know 100% what happened and what will happen what you say what happened and what will happen is true.
When you can test and verify the future, you may get some credance, meanwhile, your future claims are without science!Loudmouth said:False. That leaves us with scientific answers and some stuff that dad dreamt up. Within science, claims are testable and verifiable which lends them credence. ..
dad said:When you can test and verify the future, you may get some credance, meanwhile, your future claims are without science!
dad said:You don't know 1% by reason of any science we have.
So when your old age tales scare poor little children with how they will die, and the sun and stars will burn out, etc. while at the same time not allowing hope of other beliefs, it is tragic.
I calculate that light in a merged universe moves at least 41 million times faster than this present light in this PO universe. To review this, the peers must be able to measure more than just PO light! I calculate that the bible was true all along. Science can't calculate more than the present, so don't expect scientific calculations beyond that from them or me or anyone else.Natro said:Ok give me these claculations and I am sure you have submited them for peer reviews that you can also show me. If not then your just a man shouting the internet saying things he can't prove are true like they are true.
Why would anyone care, if this were true?Loudmouth said:I claim that no time in the future will you find a fossil that has both mammalian and avian features that are not shared by reptiles.
I couln't comment on standard PO conditions that will not exist in the future.I claim that at no time in the future will the density of water change in standard conditions (barometric pressure at sea levle, 20 degrees C, etc.).
Baloney! Your predictions go only as far as this temporary universe. That is pretty far, but not that far, just over a thousand years.I claim that no time in the future will you observe stars that give off spectra different than that on earth (after adjusting for redshift).
In it's place it is interesting. Elevated to god status it falls flat as a flounder. It is hot stuff in the present, no stuff in the past or future! But I get a feeling you don't care about anything but the present.I could keep going, but I have a feeling you aren't interested in science.
dad said:Why would anyone care, if this were true?
I couln't comment on standard PO conditions that will not exist in the future.
Baloney! Your predictions go only as far as this temporary universe. That is pretty far, but not that far, just over a thousand years.
In it's place it is interesting. Elevated to god status it falls flat as a flounder. It is hot stuff in the present, no stuff in the past or future! But I get a feeling you don't care about anything but the present.
Yes, and it ends and begins with the present! We are talking about your fantastic claims of it applying to God's tomorrow. Thats called baloney! And 1% is being generous to you there.Loudmouth said:Sure we do. It's called experimentation.
Not only are you not afraid of spouting pseudoscience, but you are also a fan of the Fallacy of Consequence.
I'll call your bluff, up your speck ante, and raise your soon to pass away PO universe with a merged one!AirPo said:I'll see your BS and raise you a parody!
I meant predict with some bearing on how it will really be! Any wacko can predict things like the stars will always glow just so, and call it science. Have you tested these future water and stars? No. You simply spout assumptions you like to call science!Loudmouth said:You claim that no one is able to predict future events using science. I did just that. So are you in the practice of asking questions for answers that you don't care about?
It can't predict squat. All you do is try to imagine sameness and decay into the future NOTHING more!!!!So science is able to predict future events but your split world doohicky is not. Score one for science.
It doesn't threaten anything. You just are sore you can't really pack it into the futre or past, except in dreams and false boasts.I care about people dissing science because it conflicts with their religious beliefs. I don't hold science as god status, but obviously you do judging by the way it threatens your god.
I see a bucky ball in your avatar. I found it interesting how the design came to be. (if I read a good article, that wasn't wrong).Herman Hedning said:People, don't get all upset by Dad's weird ideas. There's no use trying to answer his posts in any meaningful way. Just sit back and enjoy the humour.
dad said:I meant predict with some bearing on how it will really be! Any wacko can predict things like the stars will always glow just so, and call it science. Have you tested these future water and stars? No. You simply spout assumptions you like to call science!
It can't predict squat. All you do is try to imagine sameness and decay into the future NOTHING more!!!!
It doesn't threaten anything. You just are sore you can't really pack it into the futre or past, except in dreams and false boasts.
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