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Dinosaurs on the Ark: How It Was Possible

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Is this the same place where Hovind got his pHd?
Nope.

All I had to do is send in two box tops of my favorite cereal (King Vitaman or Cap'n Crunch), along with a self-addressed stamped envelope and voila.

My PhD in Advanced Neuclear Physics!
 
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Nope.

All I had to do is send in two box tops of my favorite cereal (King Vitaman or Cap'n Crunch), along with a self-addressed stamped envelope and voila.

My PhD in Advanced Neuclear Physics!
Well, this is how creationists get their degrees.
 
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No Flood, no Ark, possibly no Noah.
Deny anything that dares contradict established scientific paradigms, right?

My pastor says there are some 70 different ways to date the earth, and scientists only use four of them that make the earth look old, and deny the rest.
 
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Deny anything that dares contradict established scientific paradigms, right?

My pastor says there are some 70 different ways to date the earth, and scientists only use four of them that make the earth look old, and deny the rest.
Your pastor seem to be just as ignorant as you about science.
 
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Your pastor seem to be just as ignorant as you about science.
That just means he won't disrespect its scientific method when convenient.
 
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Deny anything that dares contradict established scientific paradigms, right?

My pastor says there are some 70 different ways to date the earth, and scientists only use four of them that make the earth look old, and deny the rest.
Do you have an example of a reliable way to date the earth that scientists deny?
 
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Do you have an example of a reliable way to date the earth that scientists deny?
He said something about scientists accepting radio carbon dating, argon [something-something], krypton this, and something else that (geology and deep space, I think).

I can't remember them all.

Everything else like ocean salinity, strength of the magnetosphere, and others, they find ways to invalidate.
 
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He said something about scientists accepting radio carbon dating, argon [something-something], krypton this, and something else that (geology and deep space, I think).

I can't remember them all.

Everything else like ocean salinity, strength of the magnetosphere, and others, they find ways to invalidate.
I can't speak to something about something-something. If the methods can be invalidated, they should be, right? Let's focus in on one. Whatever scientific evidence is strongest that is at odds with an old earth. I would like to know if something like that is being swept under the rug.
 
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He said something about scientists accepting radio carbon dating, argon [something-something], krypton this, and something else that (geology and deep space, I think).

I can't remember them all.

Everything else like ocean salinity, strength of the magnetosphere, and others, they find ways to invalidate.

With regard to the salinity of the oceans, Lorence Collins - http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/collins.pdf - who happens to be a Christian as well as a scientist, has argued that the accumulation of chloride ions in the oceans would require 3.6 billion years and therefore that the oceans must be at least this old.
 
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Deny anything that dares contradict established scientific paradigms, right?

My pastor says there are some 70 different ways to date the earth, and scientists only use four of them that make the earth look old, and deny the rest.
As Forrest Gump likes to say, “stupid is as stupid does.”


ETA: Does your pastor still think Trump is president?
 
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Deny anything that dares contradict established scientific paradigms, right?

My pastor says there are some 70 different ways to date the earth, and scientists only use four of them that make the earth look old, and deny the rest.
Why would scientists debate hypothesis that lack evidence and/or that can not be falsified?
 
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Why would scientists debate hypothesis that lack evidence and/or that can not be falsified?
Because they're scientists. Modern-day scientists.
 
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Because they're scientists. Modern-day scientists.
Whether modern or not scientists debate evidence not lack of evidence or apologetics. It really is simple. If your pastor claims there are ways for scientists to discuss a topic he needs to produce the evidence for them to discuss, if not there is nothing to discuss.
 
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Whether modern or not scientists debate evidence not lack of evidence or apologetics. It really is simple. If your pastor claims there are ways for scientists to discuss a topic he needs to produce the evidence for them to discuss, if not there is nothing to discuss.
I thought I gave two good examples: ocean salinity and the earth's magnetosphere.
 
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ocean salinity
Seems to me like guessing the age of a person by how much makeup residue is in their skin.

Why would the salinity of oceans be the way to guess the age of a planet? How much ocean salinity does Mars or Venus have? I guess none. Their age is therefore 0?

It should be measured by something much more common in the universe so that it can be tested by comparing to each other.
 
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