DINOSAURS! Noah's Flood & other awesome questions.

[pat34lee]

TITANIC VS NOAH'S ARK

What an apples vs oranges comparison.
How much coal did the Titanic use? 895 tons per day.
Fresh water for drinking? The Titanic used 14,000 gallons per day.
The Titanic carried 900 tons of baggage and freight.
There were 4 elevators on the Titanic.

And how much wasted space for dining rooms, ballrooms, exercise rooms, etc.?

 

[Colter]

Who were the Nodites? Sons and daughters of Adam and Eve.
Communities can grow quickly when everyone lives a thousand years.

Just add to the Bible when it's wrong.

 

[Colter]

What an apples vs oranges comparison.
How much coal did the Titanic use? 895 tons per day.
Fresh water for drinking? The Titanic used 14,000 gallons per day.
The Titanic carried 900 tons of baggage and freight.
There were 4 elevators on the Titanic.

And how much wasted space for dining rooms, ballrooms, exercise rooms, etc.?

It's a story concocted for the child like minds of Bronze Age sheep herders by the Hebrew priest class who were unable to trace their blood lines back to Adam. So they decided to drown the whole earth in its own wickedness.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

The Bible is God's Word. Written by man, Influenced by God. We are in His creation, we are His creation.

So it appears you are attempting to persuade everyone of this by the method of hypnosis.

 

[jeager016]

nodites:
http://www.inspiredbooks.com/Nodites.htm

Try and make some sense out of that ^^^^^^^^^^^^.
Luck to ya.

I am absolutely SURE Ancient Aliens are part of the vast conspiracy
to confuse modern mankind about who and what the Christian
Bible really means.

I am just as sure someone on this site will read that ^^^^ post and
take every word seriously.
Everyone knows Ancient Aliens are responsible for mankind's
explosion of technology. After all we are far too stupid to have
invented the electronics leading the latest techno revolution.

 

[RickG]

Earth, ground, concrete much of the time, grass. No columns.

The geologic column is a classification of layers of rocks and sediments that have accumulated over time as a chronology of specific events. Your denial of its existence probably comes from a claim by Henry Morris back in the 1980's. I think Morris' point was that there is no "complete" column anywhere on earth. And as creationists usually are, he is quite wrong. In fact, here is a list of the complete geologic column in 25 different locations around the world.

• The Ghadames Basin in Libya
• The Beni Mellal Basin in Morrocco
• The Tunisian Basin in Tunisia
• The Oman Interior Basin in Oman
• The Western Desert Basin in Egypt
• The Adana Basin in Turkey
• The Iskenderun Basin in Turkey
• The Moesian Platform in Bulgaria
• The Carpathian Basin in Poland
• The Baltic Basin in the USSR
• The Yeniseiy-Khatanga Basin in the USSR
• The Farah Basin in Afghanistan
• The Helmand Basin in Afghanistan
• The Yazd-Kerman-Tabas Basin in Iran
• The Manhai-Subei Basin in China
• The Jiuxi Basin China
• The Tung t'in - Yuan Shui Basin China
• The Tarim Basin China
• The Szechwan Basin China
• The Yukon-Porcupine Province Alaska
• The Williston Basin in North Dakota
• The Tampico Embayment Mexico
• The Bogata Basin Colombia
• The Bonaparte Basin, Australia
• The Beaufort Sea Basin/McKenzie River Delta

Sources:

Robertson Group, 1989. Stratigraphic Database of Major Sedimentary Basins of the World. (Llandudno Gwynedd, England: The Robertson Group)
Trendall, A.F. et al, editors, Geology and Mineral Resources of Western Australia, Memoir 3, Geological Survey of Western Australia. (Perth, State Printing Division, 1990).
N.E. Haimla et al, The Geology of North America, Vol. L, DNAG volumes, 1990, p. 517)

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[Colter]

nodites:
http://www.inspiredbooks.com/Nodites.htm

Try and make some sense out of that ^^^^^^^^^^^^.
Luck to ya.

I am absolutely SURE Ancient Aliens are part of the vast conspiracy
to confuse modern mankind about who and what the Christian
Bible really means.

I am just as sure someone on this site will read that ^^^^ post and
take every word seriously.
Everyone knows Ancient Aliens are responsible for mankind's
explosion of technology. After all we are far too stupid to have
invented the electronics leading the latest techno revolution.

They aren't aliens if we know who they are. Who appeared to Mary and told her his boss was in her tummy???? Who appeared to Abraham at the trees of Mamre??????

What dose the Christian Bible actually say about Cain and Nod????

I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

But the Lord said to him, “Not so anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over. ” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod.

Cain made love to his wife and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city and he named it after his son Enoch.

 

[Not_By_Chance]

In my theology Life Carriers brought the primitive life forms to earth which evolved into life as we know it. Evolution is Gods technique for the evolutionary worlds. Eventually human life forms appear with minds capable of responding to spirit gravity.

The idea is not supported or endorsed by mainstream Christianity. From where do you get such an idea?

The fossil record demonstrates variations of life living at different times over periods of millions of years.

Or, it demonstrates the way they were buried during the global flood of Noah's day.

The YEC narrative of Genesis isn't supported by the evidence.

Neither is the secular idea of everything coming from nothing and evolving over billions of years - it's just a story designed by man in a vain attempt to exclude God.

 

[Not_By_Chance]

I think you'll find that if you look at what creation-believing Christian scientists have to say, they don't propose anywhere near the quoted numbers of creatures would have been needed to go on board Noah's ark. I think the total number is somewhere around 20,000 at most.

 

[Not_By_Chance]

What an apples vs oranges comparison.
How much coal did the Titanic use? 895 tons per day.
Fresh water for drinking? The Titanic used 14,000 gallons per day.
The Titanic carried 900 tons of baggage and freight.
There were 4 elevators on the Titanic.

And how much wasted space for dining rooms, ballrooms, exercise rooms, etc.?

One of the other posts tells us that there the capacity of the Titanic was 3,547 people. So if they were using 14,000 gallons of water between them each day for drinking, that means they were drinking 31.58 pints of water a day! Boy, they must have been thirsty!

 

[Speedwell]

One of the other posts tells us that there the capacity of the Titanic was 3,547 people. So if they were using 14,000 gallons of water between them each day for drinking, that means they were drinking 31.58 pints of water a day! Boy, they must have been thirsty!

What about washing? What about food preparation?

 

[RickG]

Or, it demonstrates the way they were buried during the global flood of Noah's day.

One of the other posts tells us that there the capacity of the Titanic was 3,547 people. So if they were using 14,000 gallons of water between them each day for drinking, that means they were drinking 31.58 pints of water a day! Boy, they must have been thirsty!

And ocean salinity would have changed considerably killing all marine and fresh water life.

 

[Colter]

I think you'll find that if you look at what creation-believing Christian scientists have to say, they don't propose anywhere near the quoted numbers of creatures would have been needed to go on board Noah's ark. I think the total number is somewhere around 20,000 at most.

How does that work, there are millions of species of living things on the earth some of which have very short life spans, less than a year, with unique requirements???

 

[Colter]

The idea is not supported or endorsed by mainstream Christianity. From where do you get such an idea?


Or, it demonstrates the way they were buried during the global flood of Noah's day.


Neither is the secular idea of everything coming from nothing and evolving over billions of years - it's just a story designed by man in a vain attempt to exclude God.

*I'm not mainstream. The Urantia revelation provides a comprehensive explanation for pre-Adamic man as well as the origin of the "crafty beast". However the evolution of life forms was discovered and hypothesized based on observable evidence before the UB happened.

*The fossil layers were laid down by multiple floods as well as sedimentation and continental breakups and reformation.

*The story of life being implanted on earth by celestial beings that were sent by God doesn't exclude God.

 

[-57]

The geologic column is a classification of layers of rocks and sediments that have accumulated over time as a chronology of specific events. Your denial of its existence probably comes from a claim by Henry Morris back in the 1980's. I think Morris' point was that there is no "complete" column anywhere on earth. And as creationists usually are, he is quite wrong. In fact, here is a list of the complete geologic column in 25 different locations around the world.

• The Ghadames Basin in Libya
• The Beni Mellal Basin in Morrocco
• The Tunisian Basin in Tunisia
• The Oman Interior Basin in Oman
• The Western Desert Basin in Egypt
• The Adana Basin in Turkey
• The Iskenderun Basin in Turkey
• The Moesian Platform in Bulgaria
• The Carpathian Basin in Poland
• The Baltic Basin in the USSR
• The Yeniseiy-Khatanga Basin in the USSR
• The Farah Basin in Afghanistan
• The Helmand Basin in Afghanistan
• The Yazd-Kerman-Tabas Basin in Iran
• The Manhai-Subei Basin in China
• The Jiuxi Basin China
• The Tung t'in - Yuan Shui Basin China
• The Tarim Basin China
• The Szechwan Basin China
• The Yukon-Porcupine Province Alaska
• The Williston Basin in North Dakota
• The Tampico Embayment Mexico
• The Bogata Basin Colombia
• The Bonaparte Basin, Australia
• The Beaufort Sea Basin/McKenzie River Delta

Sources:

Robertson Group, 1989. Stratigraphic Database of Major Sedimentary Basins of the World. (Llandudno Gwynedd, England: The Robertson Group)
Trendall, A.F. et al, editors, Geology and Mineral Resources of Western Australia, Memoir 3, Geological Survey of Western Australia. (Perth, State Printing Division, 1990).
N.E. Haimla et al, The Geology of North America, Vol. L, DNAG volumes, 1990, p. 517)

There is many places where it is out of order..

Name Location Out of place layers Description
Qilian Shan North / West China Ordovician over Pliocene
505 million - 5.1 million

Ordovician strata is over Pliocene gravel with a valley filled with Pleistocene gravel.
Lewis Overthrust Montana, USA Precambrian over Cretaceous
644 million - 144 million

350 miles and 15-30 miles wide and goes from Glacier National Park to Alberta, Canada. However there is a fault line.
Franklin Mountains Near El Paso, Texas, at West Crazy Cat Canyon Ordovician over Cretaceous
450 million - 130 million

No physical evidence of an overthrust.
The Glarus Overthrust Near Schwanden, Switzerland Permian - Jurassic - Eocene
supposed to be

Eocene - Jurassic - Permian

21 miles long. An overthrust is assumed because the fossils are out of place
Empire Mountains Southern Arizona, USA Permian over Cretaceous
286 million - 144 million

Contact is like gear meshing. Sliding would grind off lower formation's projections.
Mythen Peak The Alps Cretaceous over Eocene
200 million - 60 million

Older rock allegedly pushed all the way from africa
Heart Mountain Wyoming, USA Paleozoic - Jurassic - Tertiary - Paleozoic
supposed to be

Tertiary - Jurassic -Paleozoic

Fossils in the "wrong" order Big Time
Matterhorn The Alps Eocene - Triassic - Jurassic - Cretaceous
supposed to be

Triassic - Jurassic - Cretaceous - Eocene

Alleged to have been thrust 60 miles


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[-57]

The picture presents species...not kinds.

 

[-57]

And ocean salinity would have changed considerably killing all marine and fresh water life.

Assuming the water was mixed evenly and not laminated in some places.

 

[pat34lee]

Just add to the Bible when it's wrong.

You're the one adding people where the bible says Eve is the mother of all.

Genesis 3:20

 

[pat34lee]

It's a story concocted for the child like minds of Bronze Age sheep herders by the Hebrew priest class who were unable to trace their blood lines back to Adam. So they decided to drown the whole earth in its own wickedness.

The ones who didn't know the facts wrote Gilgamesh. Noah's ark not only would
hold all the animals and feed needed; it would be stable on the flood waters. Some
people think it had a moon pool, which not only would aid stability and the tendency
to flex and break in the middle, it would give access to fresh water and pump fresh
air through the ship.

 

[RickG]

There is many places where it is out of order..

Name Location Out of place layers Description
Qilian Shan North / West China Ordovician over Pliocene
505 million - 5.1 million

Ordovician strata is over Pliocene gravel with a valley filled with Pleistocene gravel.
Lewis Overthrust Montana, USA Precambrian over Cretaceous
644 million - 144 million

350 miles and 15-30 miles wide and goes from Glacier National Park to Alberta, Canada. However there is a fault line.
Franklin Mountains Near El Paso, Texas, at West Crazy Cat Canyon Ordovician over Cretaceous
450 million - 130 million

No physical evidence of an overthrust.
The Glarus Overthrust Near Schwanden, Switzerland Permian - Jurassic - Eocene
supposed to be

Eocene - Jurassic - Permian

21 miles long. An overthrust is assumed because the fossils are out of place
Empire Mountains Southern Arizona, USA Permian over Cretaceous
286 million - 144 million

Contact is like gear meshing. Sliding would grind off lower formation's projections.
Mythen Peak The Alps Cretaceous over Eocene
200 million - 60 million

Older rock allegedly pushed all the way from africa
Heart Mountain Wyoming, USA Paleozoic - Jurassic - Tertiary - Paleozoic
supposed to be

Tertiary - Jurassic -Paleozoic

Fossils in the "wrong" order Big Time
Matterhorn The Alps Eocene - Triassic - Jurassic - Cretaceous
supposed to be

Triassic - Jurassic - Cretaceous - Eocene

Alleged to have been thrust 60 miles


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No, the only time anything is out of place is due to either a dip-slip fault or thrust fault which is easily recognizable. All you are showing is the dishonesty of the creation science community.