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Colter

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They misrepresent the science because church authorities have claimed that their writings are Gods writings, therefor, to question the Bible is a lack of faith.
 
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I think there are facts in science.
Look, I am not disagreeing with you, and yes I have read the link I provided many times. I just wanted to point out that your comment stated that evolution was not a theory was misleading.
 
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Right, I have heard about both the Black Sea and Arabian Sea floods and that they may be the inspiration behind the flood myths. That, and as well as just likely a bad flood season on the Sumerian plain.



You can reject Genesis as literal history and believe that it provides the foundation for the gospel.

Maybe you should actually have a look for the evidence in stead of just stating it isn't there.

Actually, I used to believe there was evidence. I rejected evolution, an old Earth, etc. I then researched both sides and found all of the evidence on one.

You're just repeating the mantras they brainwashed you with.

I wasn't brainwashed. I researched it all myself, and then took biology at a Christian university where evolution was taught as faked and early Genesis as allegorical. They didn't force us to agree with them, they just taught it.
 
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Look, I am not disagreeing with you, and yes I have read the link I provided many times. I just wanted to point out that your comment stated that evolution was not a theory was misleading.

Evolution ceased being a theory when DNA was discovered,
because there is no mechanism that can cause the changes
needed. Dinosaur soft tissue was just icing on the cake.

All that is left now is a religion for those who refuse to accept
the fact that God created everything.
 
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Of all the scientific theories developed in the past 500 years, two of the most powerful and best evidence are the Theory of Evolution and the Big Bang Theory.

Except for 2 facts.

Neither is possible without God.
God didn't do either.
 
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Evolution ceased being a theory when DNA was discovered,
because there is no mechanism that can cause the changes
On the contrary, the method is well characterized and well evidenced. But you would have to turn to other than Creationist sources if you want to find out how it really works.

All that is left now is a religion for those who refuse to accept
the fact that God created everything.
So you're still on that kick that all those who accept the theory of evolution deny God's authorship of the universe?
Get over it.
 
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And yet you have a coccyx, for some strange reason.

Because it is necessary, like every so-called 'evolutionary' leftover. Science would
advance so much faster if they realized God knew what he was doing in creation.

The coccyx serves as an attachment site for tendons, ligaments, and muscles.
It also functions as an insertion point of some of the muscles of the pelvic floor.
The coccyx also functions to support and stabilize a person while he or she is in a sitting position.

http://www.healthline.com/human-body-maps/coccyx
 
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I've read all your sources. They don't impress me, because everybody
has a bias. Who is paying the bills, funding the research, putting names
on buildings?

Name a realistic way that evolution can change an animal from one kind
to another, and in the frame of time permitted.

It isn't my kick to get over. Either God is creator, author of life, holy, good,
eternal soverign, etc., or he is a liar and a fraud, and creator of death and
destruction. (IOW, the devil) In which case, we wouldn't be here, because
evil cannot create. It can only manipulate.
 
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I've read all your sources.
LOL! I doubt that. I doubt whether you have ever had so much as a college-level genetics text in your hands.

Name a realistic way that evolution can change an animal from one kind
to another, and in the frame of time permitted.

Frame of time permitted? One kind to another? No, you are in no position to make pronouncements about the theory of evolution until you know what it is that evolutionary biologists are claiming (right or wrong) and what evidence they have. Obviously you don't have a clue and if you continue to rely on Creationist sources you will never learn. That's fine with me, but in the meantime keep a civil tongue in your head and cut out the slanderous comments.
 
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How about in the Paleozoic layer with trace fossils, vertebrate tracks and such, then finding the vertebrates themselves at the beginning of the Mesozoic layer. How is it there will be tracks to animals millions of years before the animals existed themselves? A global flood is a better answer in that aspect due to the animals running away from flood waters and eventually perishing.
 
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There's also evidence of a global flood. Where I can see the point of view of theistic evolution (I myself believed that before I accepted the Bible as fact) it doesn't make sense when you look at the geological column. Im eating my own words here, I am saying the geological column does exist. I referenced many diagrams of the grand canyon to further investigate that claim I made. In actuality a global flood is a much better answer for the layers of strata and the order of fossil records than millions of years of erosion.
 
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The Sumerians had a flood legend before the Bible was written.

Just because it was before Genesis was written doesn't necessarily mean the ancient Sumerians were correct on the details. Genesis is God's word.
 
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