Really???
So you don't understand how "gradual" is not the same as "instantly"?
do you have one of those gradual light switches for your dining room?
Tell me, can you tell when the light is on, and when it's off?
If you can, how, since its "gradual", from dark to light!?
Yet here we are, once that switch turns the light ON, even if its all the way on low it is ON.
False analogy. Try this one, instead:
That I will have to agree on, or at least they didn't act like humans, maybe they are of another species, maybe the fallen angel mix, hybrids??
Homo Sapiens belongs to the kingdom of animalia.
Your emotional objections to that, not withstanding.
It is impossible to come up with a defintion for "animal" that includes ALL animals but excludes humans without explicitly adding "...
but not humans".
It's just the way it is.
It's reality. Not a personal opinion.
Same Creator of both, similar design, same material too as we can see after we die and turn back to dust, but one was to dominate, or "rule over" the other. This is why we have animals as pets, but no animal has humans for pets.
Humans were created for a very different purpose, we are creators, and animals are for food, and to use as we wish. I'm sorry that Evolutionists can't see that when even an infant can tell the difference between the 8 million species of animals and humans!?
None of this is relevant. I gave you the biological definition of "animal".
You are welcome to point out how homo sapiens does not fit that definition.
Once again, your emotional objections or faith based beliefs, are irrelevant.
The definition is right there. Point out how homo sapiens doesn't fit the definition, if you believe it is the case.
My Lord, so you don't see that categorizing and associating humans with animals is a terrible idea, especially in the scientific sense!?
No. Not at all.
Just because we classify taxonomically in the kingdom of animalia, doesn't change anything about who we are. It doesn't mean we should start flinging fecies at eachother.
You seem really hung up on this fallacious emotional reasoning.
I mean let's hope that if you seen a mutilated human on the side of the road, you wouldn't call animal clean up as you would for an animal carcass!? Or take your kids to a vet instead of a human doctor!?
I mean think about it from the Evolutionist perspective, wouldn't it make more sense to take your kids to a vet who specializes in 8 million different animal species over a normal doctor who only specializes in one, specifically human?? Yet I bet even you wouldn't think of that.
Off course I wouldn't think of that. Why would I?
None of this is relevant to the facts of taxonomy.
Our biological reality has no bearing on how we should live.
I have no idea why you would think otherwise.
Evolution is an explanation on how life develops / diversifies and that's it. It's not a model on how to organize a society or how humans should treat eachother.
It's an explanation of biology. Not a sociological model on how to live.
Now Isn't that special? If you are an animal, you should be an animal in every context, just like the 8 million other animals.
I'm also a human, specifically.
What makes you so special?
As opposed to what?
Isn't that what Evolutionists push, that Creastionists think they are special, that's why they don't want to be associated with animals?
What hypocrisy in this Religion!
What religion?
I consider humans special, sure. If I were a cat, I'm sure I would consider cats special as well.
The thing is though, in what sense do you consider humans special?
Creationists, in my experience, tend to think they are special in quite narcistic ways. To the point where they believe that this vast universe, holding 250 billion galaxies each made up of 200 billion stars, was created specially for us. That we humans are like not only the center, but the entire
reason for the universe.
Yes, .. and after doing this for a billion years, since you guys claim that no animal turns into another species in their lifetime, ..
Not "you guys". That's rather just the gradual nature of evolution.
Individuals don't evolve. Populations do. And it happens through the
gradual accumulation of small changes that spread throughout the population.
Just like how Latin over millenia gradually turned into spanish, french, portugese....
At no point in history did a latin speaking mother raise a french speaking child....
At no point in history was there a latin speaking person who 'invented' spanish or french.
Instead, every person that ever lived, spoke the same language as the people that raised them.
And yet, Latin
evolved into french, spanish, portugese,...
you would have exactly what we have today, humans with variations living on different continents.
Or like the domestic dogs, cats, horses, pigeons, they all remain the same species that they originally were created for; "after their kind".
Just like Spanish, French and Portugese are all "still" roman language. Latin didn't become a germanic language.
Evolution doesn't claim otherwise.
Just like very person spoke the language of the people that raised them, so was every newborn of the same species as its biological parents.
And yet, ancestral latin evolved into french, spanish and portugese.
Just like ancestral primates evolved into humans, chimps and gorilla's.
Gradualism is a real thing, you know.
Explain to me how, or when one species has EVER speciated into another species?
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html
Details observed instances of speciation.
It's a dificult thing to observe off course, since it takes quite some time to unfold.
But it's not a problem. Because we have DNA, which can be used to determine blood ties and common ancestry.
I just gave you a link.
Because it's exactly as you said, time only gives us variations, and NOT different species
Never said any such thing.
I said that it works through the
gradual accumulation of changes / variations. I'm sorry that you can't grasp the concept and the implied inevitable result of
gradual accumulation.
LOL, .. just how brainwashed do you Evolutionist take us for? This only works on those already indoctrinated in Religion, not me.
More evidence that you
- have no idea what evolution is actually all about
- have no idea what the implication is of
gradual accumulation
Myeah..... I'm gonna call your bluff here.
THIS IS about Evolution, speciation, where you call my ancestors gorillas and even rats!
Humans did not evolve from gorilla's or from rats.
Not sure where you got that, but most certainly not from me.
Most likely, you got it from yet another creationist propaganda channel.
Why can't you guys tell me this you call a very BASIC question regarding Evolution? How would a species that remains the same species after billions of years of "variations" justify your Evolution?
Already told you and illustrated with an analogy to the development of languages how it works:
through the gradual accumulation of micro-changes.
It's how ancestral primates diversified into chimps, humans and gorilla's.
Just like how ancestral Latin diversified into Spanish, french and portugese.
Again, I'm sorry that you aren't able (or willing) to grasp the implications of
gradual accumulation.
Right here you admit that Evolution is a lie!
Nope. Just informing you on the natural of
gradual accumulation.
And once again you admit that Evolution story is just that, a fantastic story with absolutely no scientific evidence to back it up. You just admitted that no gorilla ever speciated no matter how many billions of years has passed by, so as the Bible says, each animals remains within it's kind, but with increasing numbers of variations!
That's not at all what I said.
It seems you have serious reading comprehension issues.
Well then this should be really easy to detect, so when is the next population of gorillas going to evolve to the point they speciate into the next species? Or any of the 8 million other species? Has evolution stopped since I've been debating it? sure seems like it!
Looking at current gorilla populations, I think it's more likely that they will go extinct rather then live on - let alone speciate.
It seems you have your work cut out for you....
I will once again advice you to learn the basics of evolution theory, before continuing. This is pointless.