Different state past

[AV1611VET]

From what?

Heck.

 

[CaliforniaSun]

Heck.

... if you know.

 

[AV1611VET]

... if you know.

-- What?

 

[CaliforniaSun]

-- What?

You have no idea, do you?

 

[sandwiches]

-- What?

Precisely.

 

[Tiberius]

So I struck out on there being a God? Seems to me you like to talk for the sake of talking.

This from the guy who makes loud noises for the sake of pushing his opinion across, but hasn't provided a single shred of support for those claims.

It it amazes you, it phases you.

Meaningless and irrelevant.

Get saved.

Saved from what? Your unsupported claims?

Embedded belly buttons?

You'll have to talk to AV about that. This isn't even from the same post. WHy did you include it?

 

[dad]

Saved from what?

From death.

 

[dad]

Hey smart guy, you made the claim, you do your own homework. Did you ALREADY forget that you made that ridiculous claim?

No need to get riled. I am right.

These stupid pronouncements make you look MORE intellectually lazy than you are already. Chpt 2 describes what the gardens look like and what is there. You describe the whole Chapter 2 story as being in more detail than Chapter 1. That isn't absurd, or wrong. It's really just stupid.

Not all things but some things like woman, and etc are fleshed out. That is fact.

All I have asked is that you provide biblical evidence of your SPECIFIC position. You offer stories (though I think by this point you HAVE ACTUALLY included one or two verses) without anything that directly proves your point. You whole argument is based on YOUR own understanding and deductions of the passages. The passages themselves do not support your opinion but God has seen fit to keep you blind to your hubris.

My position on...what? Take a breath.

God's greatness and power is a pretty meritous idea in my mind. I figure a God who created through some capacity, the entire universe, didn't need to buy seeds at the local hardware store to create a garden.

What, he rented heavy equipment and dug huge holes to plant full grown trees?? Not so bright. Besides it is clear the the earth grew the stuff.

He can do it however he wants. You are the one arguing "As IF God would grow a garden by doing anything other than planting seeds". There is catagorically NO merit to that idea.

There is plenty actually.

It makes sense! It is easy to do in a day. And it shows that stuff grew fast.

We can have no specific understanding by what mechanism God created that garden (despite your understanding to the opposite). Other than a vague "God planted a garden" and "plants came forth from the ground", there is no evidence.

That's all we need!

I am not saying God DID it one way, I'm saying the Bible is too vague to assign a particular method to the madness.

If trees came from the ground that means they were now stuck in there all growed up! Elementary.

I believe that idea is based solely on the Bible itself. I'm not saying God DIDN'T do it. I'm saying it is catagorically impossible to stated "GOD DID IT THIS WAY".

Not if the way is talking about a garden that was planted. That tells us a few things, it was planted and there was a garden!

I've presented my ideas based solely on merit, and I point out the lack of merit in your own ideas.

?? You think you did that? Where?

You, like most human beings, don't like it when it's brought to their attention that their ideas are baseless and so, instead of thinking, evaluating and presenting your ideas, I see boring repetition

The fast growing plants is a very solid bible concept. Even in the millennium we will again see fast plant growth. You haven't begun to make a case for anything let alone against anything I believe. I don't like your attitude.

 

[Tiberius]

From death.

SO in order to be saved from death, I have to believe that the fundamental laws of the universe were different in the past...?

 

[dad]

SO in order to be saved from death, I have to believe that the fundamental laws of the universe were different in the past...?

No. But to start to undertand things spiritual, one must be born of the spirit. We do know that spirits are part of the past and future.

 

[Tiberius]

If you provide some verifiable evidence, then I'd know it too.

 

[Freodin]

From death.

Strange... somehow all people who claim to have been saved from death instantly stop making this claim the moment they die.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you provide some verifiable evidence, then I'd know it too.

Really?

Evidence → knowledge?

How did we get our moon?

 

[AV1611VET]

Strange... somehow all people who claim to have been saved from death instantly stop making this claim the moment they die.

No we don't.

We incorporate it into our testimony and tell others how we were once lost and on...

Oh, that's cute, that's real cute.

I get it now.

 

[Jazer]

Science ≠ God ... despite what some think.

It is clear what you think about science and what I think about science is not the same. When my wife had her baby I was not happy with the idiot doctor we ended up with. Yet when you look at the law mortality rate their overall results are rather good. It kinda makes me wonder how they pull it off.

 

[Jazer]

Strange... somehow all people who claim to have been saved from death instantly stop making this claim the moment they die.

I am beginning to lose count of how many times I have died. Yet I still keep making the claim.

 

[Jazer]

How did we get our moon?

Some would say it was a chance meeting. We just sorta ran into each other.

 

[rambot]

No need to get riled. I am right.

If you are right AND if you are intellectually competent, you'd be able to convince anyone open to considering evidence, that you are right. But frankly, you have not.

So I guess my question is: How can you be so certain you are right? Is it just that your standard of evidence is selective and low?

Not all things but some things like woman, and etc are fleshed out. That is fact.

So the story of the creation of women.....aaaaand what?

My position on...what? Take a breath.

Anything you have ever argued here ever. So, take your pick really...

What, he rented heavy equipment and dug huge holes to plant full grown trees?? Not so bright.

Why are you suggesting that God needs to rent heavy equipment?

Not if the way is talking about a garden that was planted. That tells us a few things, it was planted and there was a garden!

Again, too vague for me.

?? You think you did that? Where?

The fast growing plants is a very solid bible concept. Even in the millennium we will again see fast plant growth. You haven't begun to make a case for anything let alone against anything I believe. I don't like your attitude.

NOW you are using language I can agree with: "concept". Because "concept" is a nonscientific word and requires no evidence outside of a couple of Bible quotes.
But I'd watch out because fast growing plants have evidence that they grew fast.

I also have not been convinced of the literal 24hr day during creation, regardless of how flora and fauna came to be.

 

[Tiberius]

Really?

Evidence → knowledge?

How did we get our moon?

lol.

You're like a little kid lost in da big scawy science, and you keep running back home to your moon mamma. Or your Pluto papa. Or your thalidomide uncle. Or Challenger auntie.

 

[AV1611VET]

lol.

You're like a little kid lost in da big scawy science, and you keep running back home to your moon mamma. Or your Pluto papa. Or your thalidomide uncle. Or Challenger auntie.

rofl.

Sciwench don't scawe me no more.

Sciwench can take a big hike offa big taw cwiff an fwote out to sea an dwown.