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You may interpret it that way, but that is not what is written.
So get in.ps dad...
I enjoy your posts where you present yourself as the internet discussion forum equivalent of a bombastic blowhard wrestler making all kinds of stupid claims about how great your arguments are and how awful your opponent's argument is. The only difference, I suppose is that, eventually, a wrestler gets into the ring...
Yes. At least for the last 4400 years.You've made a lot of claims, and demanded proofs of others; perhaps we should (re)establish a baseline here:
Do you believe that the Earth rotates and orbits the Sun?
No. Just the written history. Why would there be? But hey, it is pretty perverse. We are close on this.Dad,
In your alternate reality, wouldn't there be PERVERSE amounts of physical evidence that clearly indicate a different state past if there was one?
They do. Remember only the earliest records matter.And I don't mean inferential, or "I can't explain 'x' in current state therefore it MUST have been different" logic. And certainly, if there was a different state, then written records from around the world would all directly and precisely corroborate these differences.
There is all God's record. And there is the pagan record, which agrees in major details, like long lives and spirits.You yourself seem to indicate there is only SOME corroboration (assuming you didn't make it up).
I don't. There wasn't one. You do since you claim there was!Another question: Why do you have to PROVE a same state past?
Bingo. So do not offer dates 10,000 years old!For the atomic theory to be true today, does not require that it was true 10,000 years ago.
?? Like..? If we are in one nature how would we know what the other was?But if atomic models were different pre-flood, there would certainly be evidence indicating that.
No. One can not any more, since you are busted.One can assume a same state past until evidence indicates a different state past (which it does not).
I have ALL the records. That works. You have zero. Nada. Squat. Nothing.Really, the onus is on you to prove different state....and seems like a pretty poor job is being done so far.
But not those earlier than the bible, right?They do. Remember only the earliest records matter.
Only the earliest records matters.I have ALL the records. That works. You have zero. Nada. Squat. Nothing.
What's to work on? This post is a fart.No. Just the written history. Why would there be? But hey, it is pretty perverse. We are close on this.
They do. Remember only the earliest records matter.
There is all God's record. And there is the pagan record, which agrees in major details, like long lives and spirits.
I don't. There wasn't one. You do since you claim there was!
Bingo. So do not offer dates 10,000 years old!
?? Like..? If we are in one nature how would we know what the other was?
No. One can not any more, since you are busted.
I have ALL the records. That works. You have zero. Nada. Squat. Nothing.
Work on that.
Sumer and Egypt were post flood. So there are none before it.But not those earlier than the bible, right?
Your 10,000 fantasy years. Support the dating. Otherwise it is gas.What's to work on? ...
You've made a lot of claims, and demanded proofs of others; perhaps we should (re)establish a baseline here:
Do you believe that the Earth rotates and orbits the Sun?
Yes.
For one thing, don't you use calibrated equipment that you built yourselves?Excuse me dad. You have completely ignored me. Post 18 please, dad! Explain why what I said is flawed.
The bible past does not align with present state laws and forces, nor does the future it mentions. We are told this is a temporary state even. With different laws in place the creation and evolving from kinds and the flood etc make perfect sense. Science cannot prove what laws used to exist. I have given people the opportunity for years to prove a same state past. It is now very clear that science cannot do that and does not know.
If someone is new to the concept and would like to step up into the ring and try......here is your chance.
I say that this "different state past" was everything before last Thursday. I say the universe was created last Thursday, with everything in it, including memories. Everything was created with embedded age and embedded history. Now, prove me wrong.
Yet you admit that the evidence shows there was no world wide flood. For those that can not accept your embedded age theory then it is very logical to accept that there was no world wide flood. Noah was there and his testimony was preserved for us by Moses and to some degree by the Epic of Gilgamesh.About as much as someone who wasn't there, but argues the Flood was only local.
Are you kidding me?Yet you admit that the evidence shows there was no world wide flood.
YesAre you kidding me?
I have never said that, and never will.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
What I say is: There is no evidence that shows a world-wide flood.
That's different from saying: Evidence shows there was no world-wide flood.
I don't believe that.But there is evidence that no world-wide flood occurred.
Not if God placed a hedge of protection around them and/or cleaned up the mess afterward.A lot of observable objects, properties and traces would be affected by a flood that massive (ignoring whether it's violent or peaceful).
How would you do that? Step right up, give the science...?
How sweet victory is.
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