Different state past

[Cromulent]

Dad, I'm surprised to see you back on these boards after how truly obliterated you were in that "last Tuesday" discussion.

I don't see why we should take your word for anything that supposedly happened thousands of years ago when you can't even prove the world is older than 5 days!

 

[Farinata]

'The present scientific laws are not unchanging. Science can't prove that the past operated under different laws therefore radiometric dating and evolution are untrue! The Bible says people lived for thousands of years!'

'The universe is fine tuned for life! Any change in the fundamental physical constants or laws that govern the universe would make human life impossible! Therefore God exists and the Bible is obviously true!'

Any flavor you like. The human potential for cognitive dissonance and wishful thinking never ceases to amaze.

 

[dad]

I feel sorry for you Dad, I really do. =(

That is fine. An early symptom of starting to think about things. Watch out it might start to grow on you.

 

[dad]

Let me google that for you

Go ahead, but you won't find anything to help you I suspect.

Your resentment for those who actually understand science is rather cute, it comes out in these childish put-downs you try and use.

No. Disgust might be a better word. Not for science but for diabolical story tellers and weavers of godless dream state pasts. But more than that..satisfaction...that they are truly beaten. Getting in a debate is becoming more like having a toddler step into the ring in a boxing match. Heck look at your posts. They have no content and you are not talking science and defending it in detail.

 

[dad]

Dad, I'm surprised to see you back on these boards after how truly obliterated you were in that "last Tuesday" discussion.

I don't see why we should take your word for anything that supposedly happened thousands of years ago when you can't even prove the world is older than 5 days!

Don't recall the last week discussion you mean. I suppose those that agonize over last week being a reality might have found it memorable.

 

[Tiberius]

Don't recall the last week discussion you mean. I suppose those that agonize over last week being a reality might have found it memorable.

Are you proposing a different past state for your memory?

 

[Cromulent]

Don't recall the last week discussion you mean. I suppose those that agonize over last week being a reality might have found it memorable.

You don't remember that discussion? The one in which you were roundly defeated? I suppose it's happened so often that one time just blurs into another.

If I recall correctly, you scoffed at the notion that the Creator (praise be upon her hair) created the world last Tuesday, and any memories and evidence we have of the "time before" were created by her. You then couldn't give anything remotely resembling evidence that this was not the way things were.

 

[Davian]

So if I've got this right, you can't prove it, and neither can science. Is this correct?

The bible is clear. Trees that grew faster than anything possible now. People living a thousand years....a world of water and land separating...no great heat....an ark thousands of years ago with all kinds that produced all we now see...etc etc.

The spirits that lived with men in Egypt and the bible are another indication. So the only proof man has agrees with me.

That is not proof.

dad, defeated.

 

[Hobz]

Dad, how much effort would you put into debating with someone who is blind, yet argues vehemently that the sky is neon green and trees are just a conspiracy theory?

 

[AV1611VET]

Dad, how much effort would you put into debating with someone who is blind, yet argues vehemently that the sky is neon green and trees are just a conspiracy theory?

About as much as someone who wasn't there, but argues the Flood was only local.

About as much as someone who wasn't there, but argues the sun came before the earth.

About as much as someone who wasn't there, but argues...

 

[Tiberius]

About as much as someone who wasn't there, but argues the Flood was only local.

"There" is "here".

About as much as someone who wasn't there, but argues the sun came before the earth.

"There" is "here".

About as much as someone who wasn't there, but argues...

"There" is "here".

 

[AV1611VET]

"There" is "here".



"There" is "here".



"There" is "here".

And uniformitarianism can take a hike.

 

[Tiberius]

Catastrophism can take a hike.

(Wow, this is really easy, AV. It takes no mental effort whatsoever to refute something by saying it can take a hike. No wonder you do it so often.)

Oh, AV, I have a question about your boolean standards...

You say "if the bible says something..." How do you determine this? Do you just read the Bible and figure it out yourself, or do you study the works of Biblical scholars who have worked on this their entire professional lives and have access to a wealth of resources that you don't?

 

[AV1611VET]

You say "if the bible says something..." How do you determine this?

By reading It.

Thomas Edison invented the light bulb.

• 1. What did Thomas Edison do in the above statement?

God created the Heaven and the Earth.

• 2. What did God do in the above statement?

 

[Incariol]

Go ahead, but you won't find anything to help you I suspect.

No. Disgust might be a better word. Not for science but for diabolical story tellers and weavers of godless dream state pasts. But more than that..satisfaction...that they are truly beaten. Getting in a debate is becoming more like having a toddler step into the ring in a boxing match. Heck look at your posts. They have no content and you are not talking science and defending it in detail.

Neither are you. I tend to try and give posters the response their statement deserves, and Last Thursdayism doesn't rate much in my books.

 

[Tiberius]

By reading It.

Thomas Edison invented the light bulb.

• 1. What did Thomas Edison do in the above statement?

God created the Heaven and the Earth.

• 2. What did God do in the above statement?

Okay, so lemme ask you another question.

Who understands the Bible better. You, or Biblical scholars?

 

[AV1611VET]

Okay, so lemme ask you another question.

Who understands the Bible better. You, or Biblical scholars?

What are you trying to do here, Tiberius? create a bone of contention?

 

[Tiberius]

I'm trying to ask a question.

 

[dad]

Neither are you. I tend to try and give posters the response their statement deserves, and Last Thursdayism doesn't rate much in my books.

Try posting intelligently instead. Egoblather is a waste of time.

 

[dad]

Are you proposing a different past state for your memory?

No. I am proposing that you are welcome to offer something on the DSP here, rather than allude to imaginary battles.