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Difference between baptists and anabaptists

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Correct me if I am wrong.

Roman Catholic church practices infant baptism. During protestant movement a certain group of protestants in Netherlands did not like it. Their view was that until a person can know God through His words in bible, and accept the Holy Spirit and become Christian, they cannot be baptised. They used to rebaptise each other as adults. They were persecuted for holding this view and called anabaptists (twice baptised) to mock them.

They are later known as Baptists.
 
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One might consider that "infant baptism" and "household baptism" are two practices that are quite different. The infant case is based on the supposed need that it is to protect the infant who might die early in life ---which is contrary to the subject of "election" and supposes that baptism saves a soul.

The household case speaks of godly parents who dedicate their children to the Lord with the promise to raise them in a godly way to know and trust God. This latter case brings one under the protection of God as in the Kingdom of Heaven (profession), rather than in the Kingdom of God (possession of the Lord Jesus as one's Savior).

This is a simple and brief explanation only, for there is more on the subject. To re-baptize one is of no profit, I see ---unless the first was not by real faith by real Christians.
 
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Anabaptists and Baptists are different in quite a few ways. Todays Anabaptists are most easily seen in the Mennonite and Amish faiths. Also, Brethern churches and Apostolic Christian churches are close to Anabaptist.

- Anabaptists are pacifists and Baptists are not necessarily pacificist at all
- Anabaptists rebaptize those from other faiths, and will immerse 3 times, one each for the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Baptists usually do not rebaptize, and only immerse once in the name of all three.
- Anabaptists practice religious separation where Baptist do not
- Anabaptists may feel it is not okay to be a part of the government, while Baptists feel it is okay.
- Anabaptists do no make oaths of any kind, Baptist will (Pledge of Allegiance for example, miliary )
- Anabaptists are not Reformed, while particular Baptists are (Calvinists)


They developed differently though the Baptists were influenced by the Anabaptists. The Anabaptists mostly came out of Switzerland and the Baptists from England.

What they have in common is baptism by immersion, baptism of believers only, communion as symbolic, soul freedom, priesthood of the believer and separation of church and state (as in no state religion) and the Bible as the only rule of faith for life.
 
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The Anabaptists were the radical wing of the continental Reformation. Baptists come from the English Puritan / non conformist movement. Not all Anabaptists were pacifists. Some tried to take over a local government and force communism on the people, some took multiple wives.

Münster Rebellion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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FL Lee: "
Were we to wish, we could dwell for a long while on some of the quainter views of many of the more sectarian Anabaptists. We could also point to the naked submersions of some, and the forward-leaning triple immersions of others, within groups of German Baptists.413However, instead of examining those extraordinary eccentricities, we rather proceed straight to the British and Anglo-American Baptists -- who finally adopted the baptismal mode of backward-leaning and fully-clothed onefold submersion.

Yet, in light of all the foregoing, the esteem of certain modern Baptists for the apostate Anabaptists -- is absolutely appalling. We have already seen414[bless and do not curse]claims to this effect in the writings of the Baptists Torbet, Rauschenbusch and Payne.415[bless and do not curse]Other specialists in the history of the Baptists agree.416[bless and do not curse]Indeed, weirdly and woefully, even the modern British Particular Baptist Erroll Hulse has insisted417[bless and do not curse]that "we should call the orthodox evangelical Anabaptists of the Reformation 'Baptists' -- and not 'Anabaptists.'"

Speaking specifically of the situation in England and America, Hulse has continued: "The General Baptists...had their origin in John Smyth (d. 1612).... His study of the Scriptures brought him to practise believers' baptism.... In March 1639, [Roger] Williams and eleven others were baptized, and the first Baptist Church in America was constituted."

Yet it should be observed that after Smyth had 'baptized' himself, or rather 're-baptized' himself (and rebaptized[bless and do not curse]himself), he was 're-re-baptized' by the Dutch Mennonite Anabaptists (by way of[bless and do not curse]pouring). It should also be noted that after Williams was[bless and do not curse]submersed, he later renounced[bless and do not curse]that immersion as invalid[bless and do not curse]-- because administered by one not yet himself submersed.

As the Scottish Baptist J.G.G. Norman has reminded us,418[bless and do not curse]John Smyth, "father of English General Baptists..., baptized himself." This he did in 1609; by affusion; and on foreign soil. Worse yet. After thus becoming a Mennonite, Smyth personally embraced their heretical christology.419

Even more startlingly, the noted English Baptist Rev. Prof. Dr. West has drawn attention to what he regarded420[bless and do not curse]as "the first statement by an Englishman arguing for believers' baptism. It is Smyth's pamphlet:[bless and do not curse]Character of the Beast." Sadly, that is a diatribe --[bless and do not curse]666! -- against the historic Christian Church's apostolic practice of infant baptism. The latter must be renounced, held Smyth, as "profanation" and as the baptism of "Antichrist."421

After Smyth's death while a Mennonite, his colleague and successor Thomas Helwys in 1611 drew up the first English[bless and do not curse]Baptist Confession. At first, he denied original sin; always, he maintained an Arminian soteriology.422[bless and do not curse]Indeed, Helwys's[bless and do not curse]Baptist Confession[bless and do not curse]-- while indeed confining baptism only to those who have confessed Christ -- still says nothing about submersion.423[bless and do not curse]However, he not only identified Romanism with the first beast of Revelation thirteen -- but the Church of England as the second.424

Smyth and Helwys were both Arminian (Ana)Baptists. The first so-called 'Calvinistic' or rather 'Particular Baptist' congregation was formed, in England, only in the 1630s. Yet by 1638, this new denomination had rejected Scriptural sprinkling and had lapsed into sacramentalistic submersionism. Then, following that declension -- in 1641, Edward Barber was the first English Arminian or General Baptist to advocate dipping.425

Yet the sympathetic Williams has made an honest admission. For even he admits426[bless and do not curse]that "the adoption by English Baptists of the practice of immersion ultimately derived from the Minor Church of Poland...introduced into Holland by the Socinians" alias the Unitarian Anabaptists."
 
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and will immerse 3 times, one each for the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Baptists usually do not rebaptize, and only immerse once in the name of all three.

That's interesting. Scripture says to baptize "in the name of" but I don't think it gets down to this level of specificity. But now I'm wondering - is there anything in Scripture that leads one to conclude 3 immersions vs. 1 immersion?
 
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That's interesting. Scripture says to baptize "in the name of" but I don't think it gets down to this level of specificity. But now I'm wondering - is there anything in Scripture that leads one to conclude 3 immersions vs. 1 immersion?

Not all Anabaptists do triple immersion...I know it's done in the Church of the Brethren but I've never witnessed it in Mennonite churches...and Mennos usually use the pouring method not immersion...
 
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Sorry for my delayed response. So you will find some familiar things in an Orthodox Baptism, it is practised the pedobaptism (the child cannot stay more than 40 days unbaptised) and the baptism obligatory with 3 full inmersions in the name of the Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost.
 
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