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DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO BE BAPTIZED FOR DEAD , WHY ??

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AND 1 Cor 15:29 , Else what shall they that do which are BAPTIZED for the DEAD , if the DEAD rise not at all

Why are they BAPTIZED FOR THE DEAD ??

What say you ??

dan p
And for those that believe in BAPTISM or those that BELIEVE in WATER BAPTISM , would like your reply ??

Maybe it has a different answer ??

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AND 1 Cor 15:29 , Else what shall they that do which are BAPTIZED for the DEAD , if the DEAD rise not at all

Why are they BAPTIZED FOR THE DEAD ??

What say you ??

dan p
The only reason one would get baptized for someone else, is the false belief that they can get someone else's sins remitted on their behalf.
It is a false doctrine.
Everyone must decide for themselves whether or not they wants the blood of Christ to wash away their past sins by water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ.

Paul used one false doctrine to thwart another false doctrine...that Christ did not rise from the dead.
 
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The only reason one would get baptized for someone else, is the false belief that they can get someone else's sins remitted on their behalf.
It is a false doctrine.
Everyone must decide for themselves whether or not they wants the blood of Christ to wash away their past sins by water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ.

Paul used one false doctrine to thwart another false doctrine...that Christ did not rise from the dead.
I have never heard , and if have a verse , please say where it is !

And i believe that there some that say , if you were NOT BAPTIZE , a family member was WATER BAPTIZED

for them .

And the answer is in Rom 6:4 and Check the Greek word BAPTISM and will find out it not the word BAPTISM , and I

will help you .

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AND 1 Cor 15:29 , Else what shall they that do which are BAPTIZED for the DEAD , if the DEAD rise not at all

Why are they BAPTIZED FOR THE DEAD ??

What say you ??

dan p
Read whole chapter for context!
 
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Read whole chapter for context!
And I thought I gave it to you .

In Rom 6:3 reads , Or are you IGNORANT , that as many as were BAPTIZED into CHRIST JESUS were BAPTIZED into

His Death , than explain how tou were BAPTIZED // PLACED into Christ and BAPTIZED // PLACED into His DEATH , PRAY TELL.

Here is the KICKER in verse 3 , that the GREEK word ( BAPTIZED ) in the GREEK TEXT is the GREEK word ,

BAPTISMA and this Greek WORD is used 22 times , from MATT 3 :7 and used in Eph 4:5 that says , ONE LORD

ONE FAITH , ONE // HEIS , and all the ONES are HEIS in the Greek text , and ONE BAPTISMA , and that ONE BAPTISMA

is the HOLY SPIRIT ,

Then in 1 Cor 10:2 And all were BAPTIZED TOGETHER , unto Moses in the CLOUD and in the SEA , how where are three

baptized together ,

And what the CLOUD and SEA , represent ??

dan p

And in Rom 6:3 and still believe in BAPTISM or WATER BAPTISM , it sats
 
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And I thought I gave it to you .

In Rom 6:3 reads , Or are you IGNORANT , that as many as were BAPTIZED into CHRIST JESUS were BAPTIZED into

His Death , than explain how tou were BAPTIZED // PLACED into Christ and BAPTIZED // PLACED into His DEATH , PRAY TELL.

Here is the KICKER in verse 3 , that the GREEK word ( BAPTIZED ) in the GREEK TEXT is the GREEK word ,

BAPTISMA and this Greek WORD is used 22 times , from MATT 3 :7 and used in Eph 4:5 that says , ONE LORD

ONE FAITH , ONE // HEIS , and all the ONES are HEIS in the Greek text , and ONE BAPTISMA , and that ONE BAPTISMA

is the HOLY SPIRIT ,

Then in 1 Cor 10:2 And all were BAPTIZED TOGETHER , unto Moses in the CLOUD and in the SEA , how where are three

baptized together ,

And what the CLOUD and SEA , represent ??

dan p

And in Rom 6:3 and still believe in BAPTISM or WATER BAPTISM , it sats
1 Corintians 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

Paul is addressing those that believe there is no resurrection

13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

Our faith is based on the death burial and resurrection of Christ. If that did not happen peaching that it did would be a waste of time.

19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

Paul is affirming the Gospel that Christ was crucified, buried and rose from the dead.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

Contrary to the false teachings of the Mormon church all this verse is saying is that, if Christ did not rise from the dead it would be pointless to be baptized for a Christ still in the grave. There is no scriptural doctrine of anyone being baptized for a dead reletive or anyone else.
 
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1 Corintians 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

Paul is addressing those that believe there is no resurrection

13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

Our faith is based on the death burial and resurrection of Christ. If that did not happen peaching that it did would be a waste of time.

19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

Paul is affirming the Gospel that Christ was crucified, buried and rose from the dead.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

Contrary to the false teachings of the Mormon church all this verse is saying is that, if Christ did not rise from the dead it would be pointless to be baptized for a Christ still in the grave. There is no scriptural doctrine of anyone being baptized for a dead reletive or anyone else.
Good for you , How does any one explain BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD , in , 1 Cor 15:29 .

My explantion is this , in Rom 6:3 and 4 that you are NOT BAPTIZED // meaning PLACED into HIS DEATH , you

will not be RESURRECTED .

dan p
 
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AND 1 Cor 15:29 , Else what shall they that do which are BAPTIZED for the DEAD , if the DEAD rise not at all
Why are they BAPTIZED FOR THE DEAD ??
What say you ??
dan p
It is very dangerous to attempt to base a doctrine on one isolated verse. [more to come]
 
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AND 1 Cor 15:29 , Else what shall they that do which are BAPTIZED for the DEAD , if the DEAD rise not at all

Why are they BAPTIZED FOR THE DEAD ??

What say you ??

dan p
When one dies earthly death their eternal future is sealed and only God is the judge of who will or will not receive eternal life .... we are not privy to that information.

Baptism for the dead introduces a dangerous concept, that salvation can come from your own or someone else's works and not through Jesus. Baptism for the dead deceives us into thinking we may have a second chance for salvation after we die. This idea also places our salvation into the hands of another human and not solely into the hands of Jesus Christ.
 
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When one dies earthly death their eternal future is sealed and only God is the judge of who will or will not receive eternal life .... we are not privy to that information.

Baptism for the dead introduces a dangerous concept, that salvation can come from your own or someone else's works and not through Jesus. Baptism for the dead deceives us into thinking we may have a second chance for salvation after we die. This idea also places our salvation into the hands of another human and not solely into the hands of Jesus Christ.
And I remember when I forst read 1 Cor 15:29 and just drop it and then I read Rom 6: 3 and 4 .

This is how I see Rom 6:3 and 4 .

AND VERSE 3 , Or are you IGNORTANT , that as many as were BAPTIZO // PLACED INTO Christ , were BAPTIZO // PLACED

into HIS DEATH ..

VERSE 4 , Therefore we were buried together with Him , through , BAPTIZO // BAPTISMA and BAPTISMA is the Greek word

that is in the GREEK TEXT and you are not saved and PLACED into Christ DEATH , you will not be RESERRECTED if you

are not PLACED INTO HIS DEATH , called Baptism for the Dead .

dan p
 
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