Did you know Calvinists believe that?

[prayerbone]

did not Jesus look up to G_d with eyes open and pray

thank you father for hiding this from the scholars and educated,
and revealing it to babes(infants, His disciples),

for this is Your Good Pleasure to do so. ???

hahaha u people are to much

 

[TheLionandLambMinistry]

We are new here. Figured we'd throw in our two cents, this is from our website...

We believe that the Bible is inspired by God in its entirety, and is without error in the original autographs, a complete and final written revelation from God.
We believe that there is only one God, who is eternal and immutable, and manifests Himself in three distinct Persons; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
We believe in the absolute Sovereignty of God
We believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah, born of a virgin, totally without sin, God in human flesh, the One Who died on the cross for our sins, was buried, rose again from the dead on the third day, and ascended to the right hand of the Father in heaven, where He now intercedes for us who believe in Him.
We believe that Jesus Christ is going to return in the clouds for His church before the tribulation that is coming on the whole earth, and that He will return with His saints and all His holy angels to the earth at the end of the tribulation, and set up His kingdom on earth, ruling and reigning forever and ever.
We believe that all humanity is lost and born with a sinful nature, and can only be saved by a personal faith in the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, and not by any human merit or performance.
We believe in a personal devil, called Satan, who, along with all his angels, called demons or evil spirits, are destined to spend eternity in hell, and now seek to deceive the world, defeat the believers, and destroy the work of God, but can be resisted by believers, who are protected by God and the intercession of Jesus Christ our Lord.
We believe that heaven is a real place where the saved will dwell forever, and that hell is a literal place of torment where unbelievers will suffer forever.
We believe that genuine believers are born again by the Holy Spirit of God, and are indwelt, baptized into the body of Christ, the true church, and sealed by the Holy Spirit, and thus, unable to be separated from the love of Jesus Christ.
We believe that all believers need to be filled and empowered by the Holy Spirit to live a godly life and to be bold in our witness for the Lord.
We believe in the spiritual unity of all genuine believers in the Lord Jesus Christ.
We believe that the nation of Israel has a special place in God's plan, and that all of the promises of God to Israel will be fulfilled.


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[Forest]

Did you know Calvinists think that man is nothing more than puppets with God as the puppeteer?

Interesting, because that is exactly what a couple of calvanists from my town told me....

Yes, we are puppets.

Yes, aborted babies not part of the elect burn in hell forever.

Yes, the old law is still in effect and stoning adulterers should be legal.

 

[heymikey80]

Interesting, because that is exactly what a couple of calvanists from my town told me....

Yes, we are puppets.

Yes, aborted babies not part of the elect burn in hell forever.

Yes, the old law is still in effect and stoning adulterers should be legal.

To #3, Yes, that's the impact of Reconstructionism and certain forms of hypercalvinism. But ... did ya know that a conservative reformed seminary has denied degrees and removed professors who persuaded students that the Mosaic Law is a political moral requirement?

Then again, don't all sins deserve death?

Of course in many views of Calvinism the old law is still in effect. "Do we then nullify the law by faith? No, indeed we establish the Law!" Rom 3:31. But it's a question of how the Law is in effect, not whether -- a question which is actually answered by many Reformed standards.

II. This law, after his fall, continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness; and, as such, was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai, in ten commandments, and written in two tables: the first four commandments containing our duty towards God; and the other six, our duty to man.
III. Besides this law, commonly called moral, God was pleased to give to the people of Israel, as a church under age, ceremonial laws, containing several typical ordinances, partly of worship, prefiguring Christ, His graces, actions, sufferings, and benefits; and partly, holding forth divers instructions of moral duties. All which ceremonial laws are now abrogated, under the New Testament.
IV. To them also, as a body politic, He gave sundry judicial laws, which expired together with the State of that people; not obliging under any now, further than the general equity thereof may require.
V. The moral law does forever bind all, as well justified persons as others, to the obedience thereof; and that, not only in regard of the matter contained in it, but also in respect of the authority of God the Creator, who gave it. Neither does Christ, in the Gospel, any way dissolve, but much strengthen this obligation. Westminster Confession Ch. 19

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To #2, yes, anyone not part of the elect burns in hell forever. God chooses whom to give His Kingdom, there's no inherent claim on the Kingdom on the part of infants -- or anyone else for that matter except God Himself. On the other side of this if God wishes to draw infants into the Kingdom that's His choice. Scripture makes no comment at all about the reprobation of infants outside the covenant. God's not sayin' what He's doing.

It'd be unfortunate to reject a theology over something that may not even be an issue -- God may well select people out of this life in infancy specifically because He wants to spare them this life and give them the next. Both views appear in Calvinism. To tar the theology with one or the other is attacking it on ... well, on no Scriptural grounds at all.

To #1, I always find it funny when people just cart this out as some kind of proof. Did you know that your finger is a puppet? It's got tendons stretching from the finger to a muscle. And that muscle, it has no mind of its own, but obeys the signals through little strings to your brain called nerves.

Us, we obey something called our "wills", which often seem to override our recognition of reality, even. We're puppets of our own wills. And even those wills, if they're under certain substances or pressured by certain techniques of manipulation, they can be compelled into action.

All this we agree on. Yet, "We're not puppets, we have free will." The issue is over what you mean. If you properly qualify what you mean by puppetry and freedom, I'm sure we can agree on what you mean to say. And at that point I'd agree that no, we're not puppets. We're actively, responsibly, and knowingly opposed to God. "I've no trouble admitting that a man has free will. It's just no help." Calvin quoting Augustine

 

[Forest]

To #3, Yes, that's the impact of Reconstructionism and certain forms of hypercalvinism. But ... did ya know that a conservative reformed seminary has denied degrees and removed professors who persuaded students that the Mosaic Law is a political moral requirement?

Is this typical of hypercalvanism?

Which seminary?

Thank you.