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Did Ukraine interfere? Republican investigation concludes: NO

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by Halbhh, Dec 3, 2019.

  1. Halbhh

    Halbhh Everything You say is Life to me Supporter

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    Senate panel look into Ukraine interference comes up short
    Some Republican senators recently questioned whether Kyiv tried to sabotage Donald Trump’s campaign in 2016. But the GOP-led Intelligence Committee looked into the theory, and found scant evidence to support it.

    "...the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee thoroughly investigated that theory, according to people with direct knowledge of the inquiry, and found no evidence that Ukraine waged a top-down interference campaign akin to the Kremlin’s efforts to help Trump win in 2016.

    The Senate interview largely focused on a POLITICO article published in January 2017, according to a person with direct knowledge of the closed-door hearing, in which Chalupa was quoted as saying officials at the Ukrainian Embassy were "helpful" to her effort to raise the alarm about Trump’s campaign chairman Paul Manafort in 2016.

    ... As the POLITICO article noted, there was “little evidence” of a “top-down effort” by the Ukraianian government to sabotage Trump’s campaign. And the article did not allege that Poroshenko “actively worked” for Clinton, as Kennedy claimed. ..."
    Senate panel look into Ukraine interference comes up short

    @redleghunter was interested a few days ago in this topic, and posted a lengthy 2017 Politico article (mentioned above), which didn't show Ukrainian interference actually, but did leave questions in some minds clearly. For instance, did the individual Ukrainians that gave information about Russian interference themselves constitute an interference?

    Well, for any of us average Americans, we would answer that that would depend on if their information was false.

    But it was true information those individuals gave:

    The Russian-originated political memes and claims spread in the U.S. in 2016 -- as investigated, examined and concluded by the Republican Senate committee investigation
    -- that Russia did interfere in the 2016 election.

    So, the individuals in Ukraine that revealed that to the political investigator Chalupa were revealing true information to her.

    In 2017, Chalupa told POLITICO reporters that officials at the Ukrainian Embassy were "helpful" to her effort to raise the alarm about Manafort. "If I asked a question, they would provide guidance, or if there was someone I needed to follow up with," she said.
    'I'm on a mission to testify': Dem Ukraine activist eager for impeachment cameo

    Manafort is currently serving time in prison for a variety of federal crimes.
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  2. Halbhh

    Halbhh Everything You say is Life to me Supporter

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    In January 2019, Manafort's lawyers submitted a filing to the court in response to the accusation that he had lied to investigators. Through an error in redacting, the document accidentally revealed that while he was campaign chairman, Manafort met with Konstantin Kilimnik, who is believed to be linked to Russian intelligence. The filing says Manafort gave him polling data related to the 2016 campaign and discussed a Ukrainian peace plan with him.[114] In a hearing on February 7, 2019, prosecutors speculated that Manafort had concealed facts about his activities to enhance the possibility of his receiving a pardon. They said that Manafort's work with Ukraine had continued and he met with Gates, and also with Kilimnik, in an exclusive New York cigar bar. Gates said the three left the premises separately, each using different exits.[115]

    The judge ruled on February 13 that Manafort had lied about three separate matters after entering a plea bargain with prosecutors, relieving the government of any obligation they had to request leniency when Manafort is sentenced.[116]

    On March 13, 2019, Jackson sentenced Manafort to 73 months in prison, with 30 months concurrent with the jail time he had received in the Virginia case, resulting in an additional 43 months in jail (30 additional months for conspiracy to defraud the United States, and 13 additional months for witness tampering).[117][118] Manafort also apologized for his actions.[119]
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  3. bekkilyn

    bekkilyn Contemplative Christian Supporter

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    And we trust what Republicans investigate concerning themselves and their own because....?