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Did Tupac die a Christian?

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:preach: One of Tupac's last recordings was "Until The End Of Time" released 5 years after he died. The song is about refection of a life gone wrong and predominantly right smack in the middle of the lyrics are



"Please Lord forgive me for my life of sin..."



If Tupac was using himself as the central figure in this song like almost every other song he wrote...I believe that qualifies.:preach:



For those that want all the lyrics to this song




"Until The End Of Time"
(feat. RL (Next))

[2Pac]
Perhaps I was addicted to tha dark side
Somewhere inside my childhood i missed my heart die
And even though we both came from the same places
The money and the fame made us all change places
How could it be through the misery that came to pass
The hard times make a true friend afraid to ask, for currency
But you could run to me when you need me, I'll never leave
I just needed someone to believe in, as you can see
It's a small thang through and true
What could I do? Real homies help ya get through,
And coming new, he'd do tha same thang if he could
Cuz in the hood true homies make you feel good
And half the time we be acting up call tha cops
Bringing the cease to tha peace that was on my block
It never stop, when my mama ask me will I change
I tell her yeah, but it's clear I'll always be tha same
Until the end of time

[Chorus: RL]
So take, these broken wings
I need your hands to come and heal me once again
(Until the end of time)
So I can fly away, until the end of time
Until the end of time
Until the end of time

[2Pac]
Please Lord forgive me for my life of sin
My hard stare seem to scare all my sister's kids
So you know I don't hang around tha house much
This all night money making got me outta touch, ****
Ain't flashed a smile in a long while
An unexpected birth worst of the ghetto childs
My attitude got me walking solo
Ride out alone in my low-low
Watching the whole world move in slow-mo
For quiet times disappear listen to the ocean
Smoking Ports think my thoughts
Then it's back to coasting
Who can I trust in this cold world
My phony homey had a baby by my own girl
But I ain't trippin I'm a player I ain't sweating him
I sexed his sister, had her mo' good like a Mexican
His next of kin, No remorse it was meant to happen
Besides rapping the only thing I did good was scrapping
Until the end of time

[Chorus x2]

[2Pac]
Now who's to say if I was right or wrong?
To live my life as an outlaw all along
Remain strong in this planet full of playa haters
They conversate but Death Row full of demonstrators
And in tha end drinking henessy made all my enemies envy me
So cold when I flow eliminating easily
Fall to their knees, they plead for their right to breath
While beggin me to keep the peace (haha)
Well I can see close into achieve
In times of danger don't freeze time to be a g
Follow my lead I supply everything you need
An ounce of game and the trainin to make a g
Remember me, as an outcast outlaw
Another album out that's what I'm about, more
Gettin raw till the day I see my casket
Buried as a g while tha whole world remembers me
Until the end of time

[Chorus]
 

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JC 101 FM said:
I like to stir the pot. Most Christians can't or won't believe that Ted Bundy died a Christian.
Hmmm.....can't say I look forward to meeting him up there!!!
Jesus to Ted:....ummmm.....sit over there!!!
 
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who knows, only Jesus does... we can't declare without doubt if someone like that is saved... we can entrust them to God but only God truly knows if anyone of us is saved anyway... but of course those who we know have trusted in God at whatever point in their life, I guess we FEEL more assured about their soul but nonetheless God sees the heart and is and will be a RIGHT Judge.
 
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Please don't ever come to Washington State with that statement. He did not die a Christian,he died witholding the names,places of women he murdered and threw away like dirt.He was a psychotic. You have your views here very mixed up,wherever you're getting them.My mom knows the parents of Janice Ott(a victim). With this getting off topic,please think about what you're posting here. To "die" a Christian means asking forgiveness and pardon. HE NEVER DID. This does not belong in this forum.
JC 101 FM said:
I like to stir the pot. Most Christians can't or won't believe that Ted Bundy died a Christian.
 
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Illuminite said:
Please don't ever come to Washington State with that statement. He did not die a Christian,he died witholding the names,places of women he murdered and threw away like dirt.He was a psychotic. You have your views here very mixed up,wherever you're getting them.My mom knows the parents of Janice Ott(a victim). With this getting off topic,please think about what you're posting here. To "die" a Christian means asking forgiveness and pardon. HE NEVER DID. This does not belong in this forum.

So God can't forgive murderers? I guess the Apostle Paul was outta luck then eh?:D . Seriously I do feel sorry for the victims' families and what he done was atrocious beyond belief, but no matter what he did, God could still forgive him of those crimes.

As for Tupac, I've often wondered the same thing. Truly God only knows, but his lyrics sometimes made me wonder. Alot of times he mentioned not being worthy of heaven because he had done so many wrong things. I hope he just changed his position on that before he died.
 
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LivingWorship said:
who knows, only Jesus does... we can't declare without doubt if someone like that is saved... we can entrust them to God but only God truly knows if anyone of us is saved anyway... but of course those who we know have trusted in God at whatever point in their life, I guess we FEEL more assured about their soul but nonetheless God sees the heart and is and will be a RIGHT Judge.




we can tell if someone is saved our not by their fruit and their life style and the friut that i saw in him was not the fruit of the holy spirit:)
 
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I think the general feeling is right, only god knows. Everyone deserves the right at a second chance. This doesn't mean we have to accept what he did or not put him in jail, we need to protect ourselfs (yes i realize he is dead).

In god's eyes, we're all messed up. we commit sins on a daily basis, and there ARE people out there who pretend to live perfect lives and condem people daily. If we beleived what they told us, wouldn't that be a sad thing? Some people just need a lot more help.

I'm not sure what his motives are. I do know about "Preacher Mase". Mase was never "Grade A" in the livestyle category, but he seems to have made a change in his life.

I promise myself I'm not going to get mad at people speeding on the highway and every day I'm growling. ;)
 
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ParaCristo said:
Hmmm.....can't say I look forward to meeting him up there!!!
Jesus to Ted:....ummmm.....sit over there!!!

Are you implying that Jesus would be embarrassed to have a mass murderer who made him his Lord and Savior and repented, in heaven? I'm sorry, I thought Jesus died for all sinners.

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

I do not think Jesus would be ashamed of anyone in heaven.

Romans 8:1 ¶There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
 
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Illuminite said:
Please don't ever come to Washington State with that statement. He did not die a Christian,he died witholding the names,places of women he murdered and threw away like dirt.He was a psychotic. You have your views here very mixed up,wherever you're getting them.My mom knows the parents of Janice Ott(a victim). With this getting off topic,please think about what you're posting here. To "die" a Christian means asking forgiveness and pardon. HE NEVER DID. This does not belong in this forum.

Teddy did die a Christian. The Judge who handed down the sentence & his wife visited Bundy for a long time sharing the Gospel. Ted accepted Christ and did network TV interviews about it.
 
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fifi said:
we can tell if someone is saved our not by their fruit and their life style and the friut that i saw in him was not the fruit of the holy spirit:)

he was a seeker and found Christ at the end. Isn't there something about the last being first and the first being last in the Bible?
 
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JC 101 FM said:
he was a seeker and found Christ at the end. Isn't there something about the last being first and the first being last in the Bible?

Matthew 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
 
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fifi said:
we can tell if someone is saved our not by their fruit and their life style

No you can't. That's a typical judgemental teaching that the modern church has been cramming down the throats of Believers for too long. All it has done is create an army of Christians who walk around judging people according to how they act and dress, where they go, and what kind of music they listen to. That has nothing to do with Spiritual Fruit!

Jesus said this:

John 13:35 "This is how everyone will recognize that you are my disciples--when they see the love you have for each other."
 
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