Did Noah's flood cover the whole earth including all the mountains with water?

[granpa]

the opening of the windows of heaven is the opening of the abyss on day one.

there have been many heavens.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Sorry but all of you are IGNORANT of the biblical fact that the great Noah's flood happened in different world. Beyond this Kosmos The old world was completely destoyed - gone forever - dissolved by the flood. That is why the Scriptures document us new heaven and new earth which are now...

2 Peter 3
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

The mere mentioned and the inclusion of the word "HEAVENS" which are now should give you all the hint that the flood could not have been just a local flood but universal one.

Therefore your so called scientific evidences are irrelevant. Try again.

I find it fascinating how some, rather than accept what simple science says and accept that this doesn't do any harm to our Christian faith, go to extreme lengths to butcher the Bible and turn it into low budget science fiction.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Seve]

I find it fascinating how some, rather than accept what simple science says and accept that this doesn't do any harm to our Christian faith, go to extreme lengths to butcher the Bible and turn it into low budget science fiction.

-CryptoLutheran

Your false accusations are surpassed only by your ability to ambush someone you know nothing about. Perhaps, what you don't like is that I expose the looniness of YOUR False theology. Do you have anything to say or do you just wish to post ad hominems?

 

[stelow]

I believe all of the the bible is the truth, and I believe all credible science, only goes to prove that.

 

[SkyWriting]

Sorry but all of you are IGNORANT of the biblical fact that the great Noah's flood happened in different world. Beyond this Kosmos The old world was completely destoyed - gone forever - dissolved by the flood. That is why the Scriptures document us new heaven and new earth which are now...

2 Peter 3
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

The mere mentioned and the inclusion of the word "HEAVENS" which are now should give you all the hint that the flood could not have been just a local flood but universal one.

Therefore your so called scientific evidences are irrelevant. Try again.

I can't deny biblical support for an idea off-hand.
I'll have to look into that.

 

[SkyWriting]

I find it fascinating how some, rather than accept what simple science says and accept that this doesn't do any harm to our Christian faith, go to extreme lengths to butcher the Bible and turn it into low budget science fiction.-CryptoLutheran

I am ignorant that that science supports ANY of Gods actions in our reality.
Please name some?




Man sick of the palsy cured (Matt 9:2; Mark 2:3; Luke 5:18)
Man's withered hand cured (Matt 12:10; Mark 3:1; Luke 6:6)
A lunatic child cured (Matt 17:14; Mark 9:14; Luke 9:37)
Two blind men cured (Matt 20:29; Mark 10:46; Luke 18:35)
Jesus walks on the sea (Matt 14:25; Mark 6:48; John 6:15)
Jesus feeds 5,000 “in a desert place” (Matt 14:15; Mark 6:30; Luke 9:10; John 6:1-14)
Many fulfilled prophecies (also see: prophets)
The conception of Jesus Christ by the Holy Ghost (Luke 1:35)
Star of Bethlehem
The transfiguration (Matt 17:1-8)
The resurrection (John 21:1-14)
The ascension (Luke 2:42-51)
Peter and the healing of a the paralytic Aeneas at Lydda (Acts 9:32, 35, 38)

 

[Assyrian]

I am ignorant that that science supports ANY of Gods actions in our reality.
Please name some?

Man sick of the palsy cured (Matt 9:2; Mark 2:3; Luke 5:18)
Man's withered hand cured (Matt 12:10; Mark 3:1; Luke 6:6)
A lunatic child cured (Matt 17:14; Mark 9:14; Luke 9:37)
Two blind men cured (Matt 20:29; Mark 10:46; Luke 18:35)
Jesus walks on the sea (Matt 14:25; Mark 6:48; John 6:15)
Jesus feeds 5,000 “in a desert place” (Matt 14:15; Mark 6:30; Luke 9:10; John 6:1-14)
Many fulfilled prophecies (also see: prophets)
The conception of Jesus Christ by the Holy Ghost (Luke 1:35)
Star of Bethlehem
The transfiguration (Matt 17:1-8)
The resurrection (John 21:1-14)
The ascension (Luke 2:42-51)
Peter and the healing of a the paralytic Aeneas at Lydda (Acts 9:32, 35, 38)

And you can't tell the difference between biblical miracles and Seve's bizarre interpretations?

 

[SkyWriting]

And you can't tell the difference between biblical miracles and Seve's bizarre interpretations?

My point still stands, science never backs up God's interventions. And I always pay attention to the oddest interpretations. They usually provide some insight, and if over the years others reach the same conclusions, they become worth looking into after a second or third time.

 

[Seve]

Dear Friend,

I would love to see a cd recording showing us that 1st world before it was totally and completely DISSOLVED in the waters of a Universal Flood. Do you think we will have CDs in Heaven, showing us of the present world, which will be burned? I can hardly wait to go to the 3rd Heaven. How bout you?

Psa 75:3 The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved:

Isa 24:19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.

2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

 

[Assyrian]

My point still stands, science never backs up God's interventions.

Depends on what you mean here. Can science explain God's miracles, of course not. Science can only look at what happened and see if there are natural explanations. What science can do is confirm something happened, even if it can't explain it. Look at how the Pharisees responded to Jesus' healing of the man born blind. There were three questions asked, could the man see, and if he was still walking into doors they would have laughed themselves silly at the whole idea, then they checked if he was had really been blind before he met Jesus. Yes he had been. Then they had to face the question of how it happened, which they couldn't answer. It was not something that happened naturally.

Your problem with science is not that it can't explain miracles, but that it shows us your interpretation of Genesis isn't what really happened.

And I always pay attention to the oddest interpretations. They usually provide some insight, and if over the years others reach the same conclusions, they become worth looking into after a second or third time.

Perhaps you should pay more attention to interpretations of Genesis that say it isn't literal, thoose have been around since the early church and people are still reaching the same conclusions.

And they are a lot more sensible than wild claims other planets were covered by the flood too.

 

[Seve]

Here's another one for your additional biblical references:

John 14
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are MANY MANSIONS: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Hello..... we are not alone!!!

 

[SkyWriting]

Here's another one for your additional biblical references:

John 14
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are MANY MANSIONS: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Hello..... we are not alone!!!

Mansions are buildings or places or destinations.
I've worked in them. Usually they are empty. Hello.

 

[SkyWriting]

Depends on what you mean here. Can science explain God's miracles, of course not. Science can only look at what happened and see if there are natural explanations. What science can do is confirm something happened, even if it can't explain it. Look at how the Pharisees responded to Jesus' healing of the man born blind. There were three questions asked, could the man see, and if he was still walking into doors they would have laughed themselves silly at the whole idea, then they checked if he was had really been blind before he met Jesus. Yes he had been. Then they had to face the question of how it happened, which they couldn't answer. It was not something that happened naturally.

SO if I hand the healed man above over to you for examination what exactly are you going to publish in your peer reviewed medical journal?
Are you going to say that his current sight is completely natural in origin, or are you going to see scientific evidence that confirms that the man was healed an hour ago? Which is it? Are you going with the biologist view or the "believers" view?

Perhaps you should pay more attention to interpretations of Genesis that say it isn't literal

Go ahead, I'm listening...

 

[Seve]

Mansions are buildings or places or destinations.
I've worked in them. Usually they are empty. Hello.

Well, perhaps you did not read this part of the Bible then....

Psalms 127
1 Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

How true it is... hello

 

[Assyrian]

SO if I hand the healed man above over to you for examination what exactly are you going to publish in your peer reviewed medical journal?
Are you going to say that his current sight is completely natural in origin, or are you going to see scientific evidence that confirms that the man was healed an hour ago? Which is it? Are you going with the biologist view or the "believers" view?

You don't seem to be getting to grips with the issue here. If he was healed miraculously the science is not going to be able to come up with a biological explanation. It could say that the man can see now and that his medical records and tests done the day before show he was completely blind. As a scientist I would say there is no natural explanation, as a believer I would happily say it was a miracle.

But that isn't the issue with creationism. This isn't science not being able to explain how the man was healed, this is science showing he was perfectly able to see before. It isn't that science cannot explain how the earth was created 6000 years ago and all the animal species made separately from clay. It is that science show us this simply didn't happen, the earth is much older and all the species on earth evolved.

 

[Seve]

Dear Friend,

The Bible does Not give the Earth's age in man's time. In God's time, Today is the 6th Day or Age.

Scripture shows that the Big Bang, which happened some 14 Billion years ago, in man's time, was on the 3rd Day. This means that each of God's "Days" are some 5 Billion years in length. This means that the morning of the Creation was some 25-30 Billion years ago.

The 1st earth or Universe made on the 2nd day were destroyed, totally and completely, in the waters of a Great Flood. Scripture does Not say that our present Earth made on the 3rd day will be destroyed in a Flood, but that it will be Burned.

The age of this Earth is in complete accord with Scripture. Those who tell you differently only demonstate that they CANNOT understand Scripture.

 

[ptomwebster]

"Did Noah's flood cover the whole earth including all the mountains with water? "


No!

 

[TasManOfGod]

Here's a question for geologists
If a huge amount of water appeared on the face of this earth , much of which came from beneaath its surface, is it possible that a huge tsunami like phenomena occurred, could it cause:
1) the centre of gravity and axis of the earth shifted considerably in view of the new conditions (thus covering mountains)
2) the addition mass on the earths crust that once covered the voids (from which the water came) could not support the massive increase thus collapsing forming huge sink holes
3) the subsequent inrush of water carrying wih it animal and plant life would leave as a flood aftermath the geology of the earth as we know it today

Just asking

 

[stelow]

Here's a question for geologists
If a huge amount of water appeared on the face of this earth , much of which came from beneaath its surface, is it possible that a huge tsunami like phenomena occurred, could it cause:
1) the centre of gravity and axis of the earth shifted considerably in view of the new conditions (thus covering mountains)
2) the addition mass on the earths crust that once covered the voids (from which the water came) could not support the massive increase thus collapsing forming huge sink holes
3) the subsequent inrush of water carrying wih it animal and plant life would leave as a flood aftermath the geology of the earth as we know it today

Just asking

Highly probable; but I'm not a geologist.

 

[Papias]

TasMan of God wrote:

Here's a question for geologists
If a huge amount of water appeared on the face of this earth , much of which came from beneaath its surface, is it possible that a huge tsunami like phenomena occurred, could it cause:........3) the subsequent inrush of water carrying wih it animal and plant life would leave as a flood aftermath the geology of the earth as we know it today

Just asking

Luckily for you, there is a statement issued by the GSA, the main geologist society worldwide, that directly answers you. Here is the part that answers your questions:

Acceptance of deep time is not confined to academic science. If commercial geologists could find more fossil fuel by interpreting the rock record as having resulted from a single flood or otherwise encompassing no more than a few thousand years, they would surely accept this unconventional view, but they do not. In fact, these profit-oriented geologists have joined with academic researchers in refining the standard geologic time scale and bringing to light the details of deep earth history.
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You can read the whole statement here:
ANT 111



So, now that you have a direct answer from the experts who understand the evidence and how geology works, do you accept that geology shows that there was never a worldwide flood?

Papias