Limo
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Thank you for explaining the Mormon belief.There is an official statement by the Mormon church which says; " The great religious leaders of the world such as Mohammed, .... and others, received a portion of God’s light. Moral truths were given to them by God to enlighten whole nations and to bring a higher level of understanding to individuals". We believe God sent many prophets to all nations with varying degrees of light and understanding.
There are some Mormons who do believe Mohammed was a prophet sent to Ishmael's family and those who were descendants of Abraham outside of Israel. But, they feel Islam has gone into apostasy just as the Jews and Christians did before them.
The Jews went into apostasy and began worshiping "the daughter of a strange god" see Mal 3. They squished El and Yahweh into one being. The Christians went into apostasy when they did the same thing and created the Trinity. Islam did when they reject Jesus as being the Son of God.
We feel that the true God is El/Allah, from him all light and power flows. He created/organized everything spiritual first "before it was in the earth and before it grew" Gen 2. Yahweh was his first born of the spirits or souls and then El created the rest of us spiritually also, we are called his children because He created us.
What we call angels are these spirits, often in the Old Testament Yahweh is referred to as "the angel of the Lord" meaning the spirit of Yahweh. In your Quran it says;
“And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: ‘I am going to create a human (Adam) from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud. So when I have fashioned him and breathed into him (his) soul created by Me, then you fall down prostrate to him.” (Quran 38:71-72)
that fits very nicely into Mormon doctrine.
The spirits exist in heaven as angels, El called us together to explain how he was going to create the earth and we would be sent down to it to become men and women in order to learn good and evil. The angel/spirit Michael became Adam and head of the human family.
Yahweh was the first and greatest of all these angels, he was perfectly righteous in all his thoughts. El chose him to be his second in command, to be 'Lord of Host'. He instructed Yahweh on how to create and then allowed him to created or organize all things physical. It was He who created the physical earthly body of Adam and put Michael's soul into it.
But we always have to remember Yahweh acts in behalf of and under the authority of El/Allah. He is El/Allah's mediator or messenger between man and Himself.
In the Arberry translation of 4:171 it says
"...say not as to God but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only the Messenger of God, and His Word that He committed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him...."
The Spirit of Yahweh left El's presence and entered the body of baby Jesus, that body was created by El. Yahweh is the Messiah, he lived a perfect life and died on the cross for our sins. His body went into the tomb and his Spirit returned to El. After three days His Spirit returned to his body and lifted it up unto life everlasting to never die again. He opened the path so that we all can be resurrected and return to the presence of El/Allah.
Once again Arberry translation of 4:171
"...God is only One God. Glory be to Him -- That He should have a son! To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth; God suffices for a guardian."
In Jesus intercessory prayer he says;
" These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee.." John 17
The Son brings glory to the Father/El, Allah
I've only one note that creates ambiguity
If someone reads Arberry translation, he'll jump to a wrong conclusion that It's written in Quran "That He should have a son!". the "To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth; God suffices for a guardian"Once again Arberry translation of 4:171
"...God is only One God. Glory be to Him -- That He should have a son! To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth; God suffices for a guardian."
Which is not true interpretation of the verse
The verse is denying completely that Allah can have a son.
Let us see other translations that make it clear cut: It's not suitable for Allah to have a son
Sahih International : Exalted is He above having a son.
Pickthall: : Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son
Yusuf Ali: far exalted is He) above having a son.
Shakir:far be It from His glory that He should have a son,
Muhammad Sarwar:There is only One God. He is too glorious to give birth to a son.
Mohsin Khan:Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son.
Thanks
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