Islam Did Mohammed exist?

[4x4toy]

No body can dispute the truth. The question is "What is the Truth ?"
Even though, whenever you know the Truth, no guarantee that you accept it.

The problem is that your knowledge About Arabs and Jews are a few.
Arabs especially in Arabic Peninsula at the time of the Prophet used to keep track of the genealogy till Ismail if they're descendants of Ismail.
The answer of your question, Yes the genealogy of the Prophet till Ismail is well know and documented. All the Prophet's tribe Quresh is the main descendants of Ismail.

Yes, There is only one God. You must know "Who is he ?" Is he one/two/three ? His name? Capability ? his commands ? his mercy ? punishment ? his penalties to disobedient ?
Otherwise, you'll get lost

On what bases, you say neither Ibrahim, nor Ismail, nor El-Messiah, nor me are Muslims ? Even nothing in your books say so. Can you provide references even from your books ?
My book states (you disbelieve in it ) all of these are Muslims.

I've references but you don't. (What is the truth even for each one for his own ?)

I have testimony of God through Jesus affirmed true by manifestations , healings , casting out demons , speaking and interpreting tongues , being chastised when I went wrong and brought back to repentance

 

[Limo]

Limo , you did lie for side stepping the truth . The question was "did Allah tell you it is right to lie Al "Taqiyya" in the Qu'ran ? If he did then he is a lier and is the father of lies .. The God of Abraham does not lie and has never told anyone to lie .. No need to answer if you can't , it's OK , I know both God and the truth , why did God send the prophets then Jesus in the first place ? There are no ancient prophecies that apply to Muhammed .. All prophesies fit and were prophesied of Jesus alone as the one ..

I thought you're accusing me lie because of my writings not you're asking about lie and Quran.
Allah is God for all, he didn't tell anyone to lie since Adam. All prophets have been ordered not to lie.
Allah mentioned truthful/truth/honesty which is opposite of liar in 127 verse. and deprives lie in 251 verses


If side stepping the truth is a lie then you did the biggest lie all over the history "to say God has a begotten Son"

The lie is when you lie on Allah. Quran, and Muslims .

Allah described prophets and believers as truthful. Quran 49:15 "The believers are only the ones who have believed in Allah and His Messenger and then doubt not but strive with their properties and their lives in the cause of Allah . It is those who are the truthful."

 

[4x4toy]

Limo , Ancient prophesy speaks of a virgin birth .. If the Holy Spirit overshadowed the virgin Mary then the Holy Spirt is God , If God the father calls Jesus his only begotten son of course he is God and if Jesus was son of God then he is God , the Word of God become flesh , We receive the Holy Spirit and born again to become adopted sons of God with the same birth right as the first born Jesus .. Spend time and consider this , Jesus came as flesh and blood but without the curse of a father passed down through a human father from Adam . Jesus came and lived a sinless life and showed us how to live and what to do as a man towards God the Father , he was obedient to death and even became sin for us and rejected by God the father because he associated with us , he took our sin . Then he was judged not-guilty and resurrected to prove life after death .

 

[4x4toy]

Limo , what is Al taqiyya ?

 

[Limo]

I have testimony of God through Jesus affirmed true by manifestations , healings , casting out demons , speaking and interpreting tongues , being chastised when I went wrong and brought back to repentance

I'm sorry to tell you that what do you believe is a Testimony have been doubted not by Muslims but by many Christian scholars all over the history to the level that these books can't be fully connected to El-Messiah.
Referring to a project "Jesus Seminar" 150 scholars couldn't find more than 20% of the books either said by Jesus or probably
The number of variations between scriptures of the books is 400.000 to 500.000 which is more than the number of wards in the books.

Unfortultly the wards of Jesus is lost among all others sayings and myths.

 

[Limo]

Limo , what is Al taqiyya ?

It's pertaining you agree with someone or hiding your belief.

This taqiyya has no roots in Quran. It's used by Shiia onl. They don't have any basis to use other than their leaders saying. Which is totally wrong and Haram. It's not Islamic behavior or culture.

 

[4x4toy]

Limo , Jesus genealogy can be traced back through both his legal but not biological father and Mary his mother all the way back to Adam and Eve .. We know who he is and exactly where he come from and all about him both through the Word of God and personal testimony of him revealed by the Holy Spirit . A man accredited by God with signs and wonders ..

 

[Limo]

Limo , Ancient prophesy speaks of a virgin birth .. If the Holy Spirit overshadowed the virgin Mary then the Holy Spirt is God , If God the father calls Jesus his only begotten son of course he is God and if Jesus was son of God then he is God

If Mairam curried the Son of God in her tomb for 9 months, and she gave birth of the God, then she is the Mother of God, Theotokos (Greek Θεοτόκος [θeoˈtokos])
Then she is a God

, the Word of God become flesh , We receive the Holy Spirit and born again to become adopted sons of God with the same birth right as the first born Jesus .. Spend time and consider this , Jesus came as flesh and blood but without the curse of a father passed down through a human father from Adam . Jesus came and lived a sinless life and showed us how to live and what to do as a man towards God the Father , he was obedient to death and even became sin for us and rejected by God the father because he associated with us , he took our sin . Then he was judged not-guilty and resurrected to prove life after death .

Did Jesus told you all of that ?
From Where did you get all this story ?
When Christians knew about it ? when it's documented for the first time ?
What are your references ?

 

[4x4toy]

I'm sorry to tell you that what do you believe is a Testimony have been doubted not by Muslims but by many Christian scholars all over the history to the level that these books can't be fully connected to El-Messiah.
Referring to a project "Jesus Seminar" 150 scholars couldn't find more than 20% of the books either said by Jesus or probably
The number of variations between scriptures of the books is 400.000 to 500.000 which is more than the number of wards in the books.

Unfortultly the wards of Jesus is lost among all others sayings and myths.

Religions can not save us from sin , At judgement many so- called Christians will say Lord , Lord we did many great works in your name , He will say "depart from me you worker on iniquity I never knew you

 

[4x4toy]

If Mairam curried the Son of God in her tomb for 9 months, and she gave birth of the God, then she is the Mother of God, Theotokos (Greek Θεοτόκος [θeoˈtokos])
Then she is a God


Did Jesus told you all of that ?
From Where did you get all this story ?
When Christians knew about it ? when it's documented for the first time ?
What are your references ?

Mary was a simple Jewish girl with the right genetics and I imagine as good a mother who ever lived but she was only a human vessel same as you mother or mine , King David believed in messiah that would come one day same as Mary had to believe in Jesus for her salvation , same as you and I .. God is no respecter of persons and Jesus the "I Am"

 

[Limo]

Limo , Jesus genealogy can be traced back through both his legal but not biological father and Mary his mother all the way back to Adam and Eve .. We know who he is and exactly where he come from and all about him both through the Word of God and personal testimony of him revealed by the Holy Spirit . A man accredited by God with signs and wonders ..

Genealogy of Jesus is one of the main vague discrepancies between Gospels.
Which one is true and accurate Luke's one or Mathew's one?
Which genealogy of Luke after David is not compliant with Old Testimony ?

You don't know all about him. You know nothing about him till he reached 12 years old then complete silence till he reached 30.

 

[Limo]

How does Allah tell you things? How did he tell Mohammad what to say?

Allah sends angel Gabriel to Mohamed to tell him Quran.

 

[Limo]

Mary was a simple Jewish girl with the right genetics and I imagine as good a mother who ever lived but she was only a human vessel same as you mother or mine , King David believed in messiah that would come one day same as Mary had to believe in Jesus for her salvation , same as you and I .. God is no respecter of persons and Jesus the "I Am"

I'm speaking with your logic not mine.
Mariam is the Mother of God, she get pregnant with God 9 months then she gave birth the God the Son. Why she is not also a God ?

If you are talking by my logic, to day "like me and you". My logic says Adam has neither father nor mother, El-Messiah has mother but no father. He's human like me and you. What's wrong with this logic ?

 

[4x4toy]

Limo , Sin is what God hates and sin is what we are born in . We sin and get pleasure and existence without God , a substitute false feeling that replaces the void of being in the presence of God , being born again by the power of the Holy Spirit frees us from sin through repentance and places us in the presence of God again . Once you experience being in the presence of God we hate all sin that removes us out of that presence . It is a personal matter of obedience and repenting daily to maintain God in and sin out .. God only acknowledges Jesus sacrifice of inocent blood from the Lamb of God , it is as simple as that , you either covered by the Blood of the Lamb or you're lost through out eternity . What sacrifice could you or I make when we deserve death to begin with ?

 

[4x4toy]

Allah sends angel Gabriel to Mohamed to tell him Quran.

Gabriel always greeted who he was sent to with the words "fear not" but your Gabriel choked and beat up Muhammed in the cave , if there are angels of darkness that disguise themselves as angel of light , I'd start my investigation there ..

 

[4x4toy]

I'm speaking with your logic not mine.
Mariam is the Mother of God, she get pregnant with God 9 months then she gave birth the God the Son. Why she is not also a God ?

If you are talking by my logic, to day "like me and you". My logic says Adam has neither father nor mother, El-Messiah has mother but no father. He's human like me and you. What's wrong with this logic ?

I have no problem , she was the mother of God . Adam and Eve was the first and Adams fall was passed down through every human father to his son , Cain , Abel and Seth were born sinners . Sin comes through the fathers not the mother . Immanuel is God with us , Jesus was human through Mary but born of incorruptible seed God the father . Prophesied from the beginning . Why do you deny the truth ?

 

[4x4toy]

Genealogy of Jesus is one of the main vague discrepancies between Gospels.
Which one is true and accurate Luke's one or Mathew's one?
Which genealogy of Luke after David is not compliant with Old Testimony ?

You don't know all about him. You know nothing about him till he reached 12 years old then complete silence till he reached 30.

One is through Mary the other is through Joseph the legal but not biological father of Jesus

 

[4x4toy]

If Mairam curried the Son of God in her tomb for 9 months, and she gave birth of the God, then she is the Mother of God, Theotokos (Greek Θεοτόκος [θeoˈtokos])
Then she is a God


Did Jesus told you all of that ?
From Where did you get all this story ?
When Christians knew about it ? when it's documented for the first time ?
What are your references ?

The Torah , Moses and the Prophets told the story , Jesus fulfilled it and finished it ..

 

[4x4toy]

You don't know all about him. You know nothing about him till he reached 12 years old then complete silence till he reached 30.

LOL , I know wise men followed a star , that Herod killed all male children two years old and younger while Mary and Joseph went to Egypt under instruction from the angel then after Herod died instructed again to return to Judea , Nazareth .. Wasn't it prophesied of Jesus the Son "born in the city of David , called out of Egypt and known as a Nazarene ?
And also the mourning of the women of Ramah over their slaughtered babes . Herod took it serious for sure in Bethlehem .. And he worked as a carpenter something not learned over night
while he studied prayed before beginning his recorded ministry . At age 12 he knew who his father was ..

 

[Limo]

The Torah , Moses and the Prophets told the story , Jesus fulfilled it and finished it ..

Neither Torah nor Moses nor any other prophet told that God is 3 and El-messiah will crucified, resurrected