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Did Jesus break the Sabbath?

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From a human perspective, I think he did. Exodus 31:
14 You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death. Whoever does any work on it, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.​

Did Jesus work on the Sabbath?

Jesus admitted he did, John 5:
>16 this was why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was doing these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.”​

There were exceptions. The temple priests also worked, Numbers 28:
9 On the Sabbath day, make an offering of two lambs a year old without defect, together with its drink offering and a grain offering of two-tenths of an ephah of the finest flour mixed with olive oil.​

Did Jesus advocate for everyone to work on the Sabbath?

No.

Did Jesus break the Sabbath?

Some Jews thought he did:
>18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking [G3089] the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.​

Did Jesus sin on the Sabbath?

No, Matthew 12:
>11 He said to them, “Which one of you who has a sheep, if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not take hold of it and lift it out? 12 Of how much more value is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”​

Did Jesus abolish the Sabbath?

No, Matthew 5:
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.​

Did Jesus break the Sabbath?

I don't think the question applies to Jesus. Even if he did, he had not sinned, Matthew 12:
5 have you not read in the Law how on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane [H953] the Sabbath and are guiltless? 6 I tell you, something greater than the temple is here. 7 And if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath.”​

Jesus was above the Sabbath law. He had the authority on earth to command an invalid to pick up his mat and walk (John 5:8) and to allow his disciples to pick heads of grain and eat them on a Sabbath day (Matthew 12:1).
 

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From a human perspective, I think he did.
This to me is one of the saddest teaching and many do not understand the implications if Jesus was a sinner and sinned, that means Jesus failed and all humanity is lost if Jesus sinned.

Sin is the transgression of God’s law 1 John 3:4 and Paul quotes right from the Ten Commandments to define sin Romans 7:7 if you break one of these commandments you break them all James 2:10-12

Jesus in His own Word said He kept the commandments

John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

And it is documented by His followers He was without sin.

1 Peter 2:22 He who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in His mouth;

Jesus was being accused of breaking the Sabbath and accused of God not being His Father, but these are just accusations.

This is what Jesus said about His accusers- which side would we be on during that time? One who believed Jesus or following the majority who crucified Him without a cause. People still side with His accusers, which is really sad.

John 8:46 Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? 47 He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”
Exodus 31:
14 You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death. Whoever does any work on it, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.​
What kind of work is Jesus referring to? Secular work.

Isaiah 58:13

“If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,

Did Jesus work on the Sabbath?

Jesus admitted he did, John 5:
>16 this was why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was doing these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.”​

The work of God and Jesus is not secular work Isaiah 58:13, they are always working for the good of man, this is not breaking the Sabbath commandment.
There were exceptions. The temple priests also worked, Numbers 28:
9 On the Sabbath day, make an offering of two lambs a year old without defect, together with its drink offering and a grain offering of two-tenths of an ephah of the finest flour mixed with olive oil.​
This is not an exception, it’s an illustration, this means the priest who are doing God’s ways on the Sabbath is held blameless because it’s not doing secular works or breaking the Sabbath, but honoring God doing His ways. Isaiah 58:13 Just like preachers today who preach the Word of God on the Sabbath is not breaking the Sabbath.
Did Jesus break the Sabbath?

Some Jews thought he did:
>18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking [G3089] the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.​
The Pharisees were breaking God’s rule by adding their rules to God‘s commandment. We are told not to add or subtract from the commandments Deut 4:2 so we should not follow the example of the Pharisees in scriptures by editing one of God’s holy commandments that He wrote and spoke and said to Remember and keep holy His Sabbath day. Exodus 20:8-11
Did Jesus sin on the Sabbath?

No, Matthew 12:
>11 He said to them, “Which one of you who has a sheep, if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not take hold of it and lift it out? 12 Of how much more value is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”​
Jesus said it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath so following the example of Jesus, by helping animals or people in need on the Sabbath is not a sin. It’s not the main point of the Sabbath as the Sabbath is about spending time with God on the day He set aside for holy use to be in communion with man, but if these things come up, we see an animal in distress on the Sabbath, or someone needs food or medical attention, one needs spiritual healing by learning about God’s Word, its not a sin to help with these things on the Sabbath. Jesus would know as He is the Creator and Lord of the Sabbath Mark 2:28 and He said the Sabbath was made for man Mark 2:27 to be the blessing that it is supposed to be Isaiah 58:13-14, not the extra burden the Pharisees were making it about
Did Jesus abolish the Sabbath?

No, Matthew 5:
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.​
No, Jesus said not to break the least of the commandments quoting from the Ten and went on to say for us not to teach others to break the least of the commandments. Matthew 5:19-30
Did Jesus break the Sabbath?

I don't think the question applies to Jesus.
We are to be followers of Christ 1 John 2:6. Jesus did not bend the rules for Himself and holds us to a different standard. Jesus came to take the penalty of sin because that’s how much He loves us, but He did not just die for our sins, but lived to show us a perfect example of how one in Christ lives. 1 John 2:6. He did not sin and kept all of His Fathers commandments including the Sabbath and is our example to follow.
Jesus was above the Sabbath law. He had the authority on earth to command an invalid to pick up his mat and walk (John 5:8) and to allow his disciples to pick heads of grain and eat them on a Sabbath day (Matthew 12:1).
Sad. These were laws of the Pharisees, not Jesus sinning and being above God’s law, this makes Jesus a hypocrite which is what He condemned the Pharisees of doing Matthew 15:3-9. Jesus came to do the will of the Father John 6:38, He came to magnify the law, Isaiah 42:21 which means make greater, not smaller and gave an example of this right from the Ten which He said not break the least of the commandments Matthew 5:19-30. Jesus came to save us from our sins Matthew 1:21 not in, which is breaking God’s law. He came to be our example to follow 1 John 2:6. He never sinned Hebrews 4:15 if we are to believe Jesus over His accusers and sad this is a teaching in some Christians churches, they would rather make Jesus a sinner, than spend time with Him on the day He sanctified -set aside for holy use that Jesus said was made for man. Mark 2:27
 
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From a human perspective, I think he did. Exodus 31:
14 You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death. Whoever does any work on it, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.​

Did Jesus work on the Sabbath?

Jesus admitted he did, John 5:
>16 this was why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was doing these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.”​

There were exceptions. The temple priests also worked, Numbers 28:
9 On the Sabbath day, make an offering of two lambs a year old without defect, together with its drink offering and a grain offering of two-tenths of an ephah of the finest flour mixed with olive oil.​

Did Jesus advocate for everyone to work on the Sabbath?

No.

Did Jesus break the Sabbath?

Some Jews thought he did:
>18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking [G3089] the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.​

Did Jesus sin on the Sabbath?

No, Matthew 12:
>11 He said to them, “Which one of you who has a sheep, if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not take hold of it and lift it out? 12 Of how much more value is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”​

Did Jesus abolish the Sabbath?

No, Matthew 5:
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.​

Did Jesus break the Sabbath?

I don't think the question applies to Jesus. Even if he did, he had not sinned, Matthew 12:
5 have you not read in the Law how on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane [H953] the Sabbath and are guiltless? 6 I tell you, something greater than the temple is here. 7 And if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath.”​

Jesus was above the Sabbath law. He had the authority on earth to command an invalid to pick up his mat and walk (John 5:8) and to allow his disciples to pick heads of grain and eat them on a Sabbath day (Matthew 12:1).
There are a number of laws that appear to conflict with each other, such as with God commanding priests to rest on the Sabbath while also commanding priests to make offerings on the Sabbath (Numbers 28:9-10). However, it was not the case that priests were forced to sin by breaking one of the two commands no matter what they chose to do, but that the lesser command was never intended to be understood as preventing the greater command from being obeyed. This is also why Jesus said in Matthew 12:5-7 that priests who did their duties on the Sabbath were held innocent, why David and his men were held innocent and why Jesus defended his disciples as being innocent.

Some Pharisees had reasoned that is unlawful to work on the Sabbath and that healing is work, therefore it is unlawful to heal on the Sabbath. However, we are also commanded to love our neighbor, it would not be loving our neighbor to refuse to heal them, and no command was intended to be understood as preventing us from obeying the greatest two commandments, why is why it was lawful for Jesus to heal on the Sabbath even though those Pharisees incorrectly thought that he had broken the Sabbath. So it is lawful to do work on the Sabbath that is an exception for obeying a greater commandment, but it is not lawful to work on the Sabbath where there is no exception.

In Galatians 4:4, Jesus was born under the law, so he was obligated to obey it, and he was sinless, so he never broke it, which includes Deuteronomy 4:2, which prohibits adding to or subtracting from the law, so he never broke the Sabbath or made changes to what was permitted on it.
 
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By this logic then Jesus could not have been the Lord of the Sabbath. So Jesus lied?
No, it does not follow from the fact that Jesus was born under the law that he therefore lied about being Lord of the Sabbath.
 
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No, it does not follow from the fact that Jesus was born under the law that he therefore lied about being Lord of the Sabbath.
I am using First-Order Logic. What kind of logic are you using?
 
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Explain your logic step by step.
1.) Jesus was born under the law, so he was obligated to obey it.

2.) Jesus was sinless, so he never broke it.

3.) That includes never breaking the command to keep the 7th day holy and never breaking the command against adding to or subtracting from the Torah.

4.) You agreed that it is both true that Jesus was born under the law and that he did not lie about being Lord of the Sabbath.

5.) Nothing that I’ve said suggests that Jesus lied.
 
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1.) Jesus was born under the law, so he was obligated to obey it.

2.) Jesus was sinless, so he never broke it.

3.) That includes never breaking the command to keep the 7th day holy and never breaking the command against adding to or subtracting from the Torah.

4.) You agreed that it is both true that Jesus was born under the law and that he did not lie about being Lord of the Sabbath.
And if I disagree, what would happen to your logic?
 
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Where do you disagree with my reasoning?
Soyeong said:
1.) Jesus was born under the law, so he was obligated to obey it.

2.) Jesus was sinless, so he never broke it.

3.) That includes never breaking the command to keep the 7th day holy and never breaking the command against adding to or subtracting from the Torah.

4.) You agreed that it is both true that Jesus was born under the law and that he did not lie about being Lord of the Sabbath.


Did your reasoning depend on my agreement in step #4?
 
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Soyeong said:
1.) Jesus was born under the law, so he was obligated to obey it.

2.) Jesus was sinless, so he never broke it.

3.) That includes never breaking the command to keep the 7th day holy and never breaking the command against adding to or subtracting from the Torah.

4.) You agreed that it is both true that Jesus was born under the law and that he did not lie about being Lord of the Sabbath.


Did your reasoning depend on my agreement in step #4?
No, that was added to counter your objection to my reasoning.
 
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