Did I miss something?

[Tropical Wilds]

I think there is more focus and pressure on women to feel like they must stay young, vibrant, and beautiful, but I don't doubt men have the same fears... Only they discuss it less. Midlife crisis anyone?

Growing old isn't easy on either sex. I just think with my generation, which is so image focused already, women are going to age less gracefully then ever. I don't think one sex has it easier then the other... I think both struggle and it's hard for both, just in different ways.

 

[DZoolander]

I think it's definitely a matter of how we express it - but I also think that men and women cope with it differently as well overall.

As I said before...I use myself as an example.

When I was in my late 20's and early 30's...if you were to look at it simply in a "who could I attract" sense (say if I were single and worried about such things) - the reality is that I could attract a far greater cross sampling of women at that point than I could now.

I do alright for myself - but you can't escape the fact that I'm approaching 43. I'm a dude in his 40's...and have the normal wear and tear that comes along with that.

Does it bend me out of shape to realize that if I were single again - that my options would be more limited than they were 13 years ago? Does it freak me out to know that I probably couldn't attract a little college co-ed any more when I could have back then? No.

To be all worked up over things that are inevitable and simply a part of life just makes no sense to me.

 

[Verve]

It kind of is a surprise to me also i just never have had the chance to meet women that are so insecure. People get old and I think there is beauty in any phase of life. Most women i encounter at least have reached that level I have rarely encountered women that fear wrinkles. Obesity yes, to much make up, surgeries and balls of wax(don't even no what's that's for)not really.

"ball of wax" is another way of saying "the whole deal" or essentially anything associated with that topic.

VT, I was not arguing against aging gracefully so Im not sure what your problem is with me. I was merely explaining why I think women face more pressure in our society than men in respects to "having" to look great and young at any age.

I don't have a problem with you. I was trying to explain that you jumped on what he said in an argumentative way. He wasn't trying to have an argument, he was trying to say something positive. He doesn't post in marrieds much and thought he'd join the discussion to say something kind.

I was just trying to give you a reference to say that he felt it was unnecessarily argumentative.

Try and picture it this way. Shy person comes into a new class, finally finds a moment to say something in the group of people who know each other well, and gets ganged up on.

Nobody here stood up and said anything kind or in agreement with his positive statement until I tried to.
Even then it was to say that you weren't disagreeing with his sentiment.

Can you see how that could be viewed as unnecessary?

What I saw...

He essentially said, "you're beautiful the way you were made".
You essentially seemed to say, "but most people don't view it that way".

I think I can see what you were trying to say and what he was trying to say. I'm trying to explain where I think the wires got crossed in communication.

Regular posters over here know enough about one another to usually recognize the difference between a conversational point, a debate or argument.

This sub-forum does take thick skin to stay in, y'all have some fierce debates and some of you seem to know each other from being in this sub-forum for years. I guess I'm just trying to say that this doesn't make it easy for people who want to join the conversation.