Did humans descend from monkeys? Where is your evidence?

[Larniavc]

Biology makes absurd claims, I want to see their evidence.

Which species of monkey are you referring to?

 

[joshua 1 9]

So no, not "Abraham" in particular.

God established a covenant with Abraham in his day, just as God wants to establish a covenant with you today.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I already know more about evolutionary theory then most of the people alive today.

No, you obviously don't.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Which species of monkey are you referring to?

The Scopes monkey.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The Scopes monkey.

There was no monkey in the Scopes Trial. It was a moniker put on to the trial by the media at the time to make fun of it.

 

[joshua 1 9]

You don't understand biology

All high school graduates have to be tested in biology to graduate from high school. In fact I have a high school biology book right here. What part of it do you think I do not understand?

 

[joshua 1 9]

There was no monkey in the Scopes Trial. It was a moniker put on to the trial by the media at the time to make fun of it.

Our common ancestor is an Idiom?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

All high school graduates have to be tested in biology to graduate from high school. In fact I have a high school biology book right here. What part of it do you think I do not understand?

Every bit about evolution.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Our common ancestor is an Idiom?

... NO! Seriously, what is wrong with you?

 

[Cute Tink]

God established a covenant with Abraham in his day, just as God wants to establish a covenant with you today.

Non sequitur

 

[Cute Tink]

 

[Goatee]

Looking at my tail, i am sure i have monkey blood in me!

 

[AdamSK]

No it wouldn't. It's an early monkey. Okay? Key word is 'early'. It's the same as early humans. They would be classed as humans in a broader scale, but they are not modern humans. Same way as apidium are called early monkeys: they fall under the broader scale of monkeys, but they are not modern monkeys.

Apidium, though not identical to any modern species of monkey, has every trait common to the monkeys that live today. It is, by any reasonable definition of the term, a monkey. So, to say "we evolved from monkeys" is perfectly reasonable.

 

[Loudmouth]

Yes we do. God told Abraham that he would be: "father of many nations". Genesis 17:5

"genetic studies have found that the CMH-the Cohen Modal Haplotype-a haplotype of the MED (J) haplogroup-is not exclusive to Kohanim, and not unique to Jews. It is also found in significant percentages among other Middle Eastern populations, and to a lesser extent, among southern Mediterranean groups. A haplotype is a group of distinct DNA markers—neutral nucleotide mutations, which when found together indicate a lineage. These particular markers were discovered on the Y-Chromosome, which is passed from father to son, without change, thus establishing a paternal lineage pattern.

All of the above is scientific fact, which has only become known in recent years."
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/abraham-lineage/

Where is the evidence that it came from Abraham?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Apidium, though not identical to any modern species of monkey, has every trait common to the monkeys that live today. It is, by any reasonable definition of the term, a monkey. So, to say "we evolved from monkeys" is perfectly reasonable.

Yes, that is true. But to conflate that with the idea that creationists put forward of humans evolving from modern monkeys (not saying that you are, but obviously joshue1 9 is) is not true.

 

[AdamSK]

Yes, that is true. But to conflate that with the idea that creationists put forward of humans evolving from modern monkeys (not saying that you are, but obviously joshue1 9 is) is not true.

Good point. But rather than saying "no, we did not evolve from monkeys," which is inaccurate and pretty confusing, I think the better answer would be to talk about the particular early monkeys that we evolved from and point out that they are not the same as modern monkeys.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Good point. But rather than saying "no, we did not evolve from monkeys," which is inaccurate and pretty confusing, I think the better answer would be to talk about the particular early monkeys that we evolved from and point out that they are not the same as modern monkeys.

Which would not particularly matter for these people, since they'll still go and say "AHA! See! We did come from monkeys!", without really knowing what they're talking about.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Where is the evidence that it came from Abraham?

God told Abraham that he would be the father of many nations. DNA show that God did exactly what He said He was going to do. Of course only those willing to enter into a Covenant relationship with God comprehend. Covenant breakers are not able to understand the things of God.

Genesis 17:5 "My covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations."

 

[46AND2]

Exactly. and yet our beliefs are to be mocked and are silly. I think the problem is evolutionists are so delusional by their theories, they can no longer see the face value of their beliefs. It's as if they have special glasses on. They're unable to naturally see different kinds. A child easily recognizes different kinds of species, fishes are fishes, birds are birds, etc. See the problem with evolution, is there technically is no species or kinds at all. Everything is one, everything is constantly changing, there is no "bird species" or anything, as technically each bird is on their own evolutionary path. Crows are on one path, seagulls another. Yet even a child can point out a bird's a bird. It's not something we classify for convenience, there's something recognizable about each species. A bird kind. A fish kind. A dog kind. etc. - all biblical teachings.

Why do creationists always say that even children can recognize what a kind is, and then always present dog and cat and fish and bird, etc.?

Would a child know to classify a dolphin as a mammal, or would they call it a fish?

How would they classify a hyena? Would they be in the same kind as jackals?

Would a bat be part of the bird kind? Particularly after reading about bats being called birds in the Bible?

 

[Loudmouth]

God told Abraham that he would be the father of many nations.
DNA show that God did exactly what He said He was going to do.

How does it show that?