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All ideas on predestination we're developed from Calvin, even the TULIP.
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All ideas on predestination we're developed from Calvin, even the TULIP.I did not quote Calvin and this is not about him. But the dodge is noted.
Why won’t you address the Scriptures I provided? They were in context and a direct Apostolic teaching.
So was Jesus human will predestined?
Because the Bible does not teach Calvinism and you put your own ideas to the Bible.I did not quote Calvin and this is not about him. But the dodge is noted.
Why won’t you address the Scriptures I provided? They were in context and a direct Apostolic teaching.
Yes, that is why Jesus was the plan. Humans were created with the chance of being immortal and in communion with God, your problem is that you think humans no choosing God makes him weak, when in reality forcing someone to love him makes him weak.So God’s plan is to set things up and correct what goes wrong?
No, Calvinism is the Reformation perspective on the gospel put in a systematic theology. If you don't bother with the Scriptures, as you did there, of course you can make any claim that occurs to you.Because the Bible does not teach Calvinism and you put your own ideas to the Bible.
You should check out this thread.Because the Bible does not teach Calvinism and you put your own ideas to the Bible.
Do you believe God changes hearts?Yes, that is why Jesus was the plan. Humans were created with the chance of being immortal and in communion with God, your problem is that you think humans no choosing God makes him weak, when in reality forcing someone to love him makes him weak.
Not really, redemption could be predestined because God knew what would happen not that he wanted the Fall to happen.Does 1 peter 1: 18-20 say redemption was predestined. If so isn't fall predestined?
How did He know? Did He ordain it, or did He learn?Not really, redemption could be predestined because God knew what would happen not that he wanted the Fall to happen.
The truth shall set you free. Maybe the man and woman were believers. Maybe they prayed. Maybe the second time was an improvement and very fine with God.No all of the above hu-mans operated within the bondage of the will.
Because Paul makes it clear God’s plan before He created mankind was to redeem mankind through Jesus Christ..
Looking at the meaning of ordain from the Greek I see this,How did He know? Did He ordain it, or did He learn?
Less fortunate? You act like hell is unjust.His plan included us choosing of course. Asking. Repenting...etc, not some magic decree for certain privileged folks...while other less fortunates got to burn forever in hell by the wave of the same wand.
Another non-answer disguised as an answer.Looking at the meaning of ordain from the Greek I see this,
to put in order, to station
So if we say Adam was ordained I guess it means a place in certain order was assigned. So, if he was made partially to be able to choose to obey or not, that is the order. As opposed to some pre determined free will overriding scheme.
- to place in a certain order, to arrange, to assign a place, to appoint
- to assign (appoint) a thing to one
- New Testament Greek - StudyLight.org
It would be if we were cast there regardless of any choice in life. Why, did it seem like some rewards destination to you?Less fortunate? You act like hell is unjust.
Everyone in hell is there because of sin. Has it ever occurred to you that God never has to save anyone?It would be if we were cast there regardless of any choice in life. Why, did it seem like some rewards destination to you?
For those who believe in God predestine events, was the Fall one of them?
You see, how is it logical that God judges people who do what God wants them to do?
Also God intervening would had done nothing since both Adam and Eve already doubted God in their hearts.
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