Did God Firewall Our Solar System?

[AV1611VET]

If you mean to ask if the heliopause exists because God wanted it to exist, then yes.

Did God firewall our solar system? yes or no?

If you mean to ask if this is something specific to our solar system then no. It would exist for other stars as well.

Did I cough ten minutes ago?

Either I did or I didn't.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

It's so cold in space that water freezes? That must be why the space station recovers all their pee for reuse. So it's not just floating around chunkey outside.

Yes, it freezes in space. Remember how cold it got in Apollo 13 when they had to turn off most of the power?

They recover their pee for reuse because it costs around $2,728 US a litre to send water up on a SpaceX Falcon 9 (2017 estimate), and it would displace other cargo. Better to reuse what you've got and top it up only occasionally.

 

[Strathos]

Did God firewall our solar system? yes or no?Did I cough ten minutes ago?

Either I did or I didn't.

You seemed to be implying that this was a feature unique to our solar system.

 

[Tolworth John]

Shadrach, Meschach, and Abednego might have something different to say about that.

Not to mention Daniel in the lions' den.

Yes but that firewall doesn't extend around the solarsystem. It's a fit one to three persons firewall.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes but that firewall doesn't extend around the solarsystem.

True.

 

[stevil]

Did God firewall our solar system?

No. Asserting "god did it" is just lazy.

All phenomena ultimately has a natural explanation.

God of the "shrinking" gaps is an ever failing explanation.

 

[AV1611VET]

Asserting "god did it" is just lazy.

Okay.

Then perhaps some scientific workhorse can tell me how the Red Sea got split in Moses' time?

And if you say it didn't happen ... well ... that's just lazy.

But I'll give some workhorse a chance.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Then perhaps some scientific workhorse can tell me how the Red Sea got split in Moses' time?

And if you say it didn't happen ... well ... that's just lazy.

Nope. The 'burden of proof', particularly for non-mundane claims, is on the claimant. If someone says he has a car in his garage, a reasonable person might decide that it is plausible enough that he need not demonstrate it. If he says he has an alien in his garage, a reasonable person would not accept the claim unless he demonstrated it.

 

[AV1611VET]

The 'burden of proof', particularly for non-mundane claims, is on the claimant.

That is science's standards for claims ... not God's.

Science sets the bar too high, then can't get over it ... leading a myriad of people to Hell.

Not to mention being a catalyst for many leaving the faith.

And for the record, I'm good at showing, from the Bible, those who claim they left the faith because of science never had that faith in the first place.

 

[Hans Blaster]

That is science's standards for claims ... not God's.

Science sets the bar too high, then can't get over it .

Then maybe your god should have higher standards of proof.

Plenty of things clear science's standards.

For example the suspected structure of the interface between the solar wind and local interstellar medium has now been checked by evidence. (You know -- the subject of the video you posted.)

 

[AV1611VET]

Then maybe your god should have higher standards of proof.

I'm glad He accepts us by faith, not knowledge.

Plenty of things clear science's standards.

For example the suspected structure of the interface between the solar wind and local interstellar medium has now been checked by evidence. (You know -- the subject of the video you posted.)

Then why is the title of the video: Voyager 2 Discovers Wall of Fire at Solar System's Edge?

If they suspected it all along, why are they calling it a "discovery"?

 

[Hans Blaster]

I'm glad He accepts us by faith, not knowledge.

"Faith is an island in the setting sun, proof, proof is the bottom line for everyone." -- Paul Simon

Then why is the title of the video: Voyager 2 Discovers Wall of Fire at Solar System's Edge?

If they suspected it all along, why are they calling it a "discovery"?

If we found Bigfoot in the Pacific NW rainforest we'd still call it a discovery even if we suspected it to be there. (We don't, but still.)

Planets around other stars were suspected to exist. They still had to be discovered. (And that's the verb used to describe the identification of any new planet previously unknown.)

Element 119 was expected to exists, but it still had to be discovered.

etc., etc., etc.

 

[AV1611VET]

"Faith is an island in the setting sun, proof, proof is the bottom line for everyone." -- Paul Simon

What's a "setting sun"?

If we found Bigfoot in the Pacific NW rainforest we'd still call it a discovery even if we suspected it to be there. (We don't, but still.)

Planets around other stars were suspected to exist. They still had to be discovered. (And that's the verb used to describe the identification of any new planet previously unknown.)

Element 119 was expected to exists, but it still had to be discovered.

etc., etc., etc.

Fair enough.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

... those who claim they left the faith because of science never had that faith in the first place.

That's a 'begging the question' or 'No true Scotsman' fallacy.

 

[Hans Blaster]

What's a "setting sun"?

It's from a lyric.

I don't do textual analysis or hermuenetics.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's a 'begging the question' or 'No true Scotsman' fallacy.

Not the way I present it.

I actually get them to admit ... in a roundabout way ... they never had it.

Of course, most are smart enough to stop answering my questions.

 

[stevil]

Okay.

Then perhaps some scientific workhorse can tell me how the Red Sea got split in Moses' time?

And if you say it didn't happen ... well ... that's just lazy.

But I'll give some workhorse a chance.

Tell me what the evidence is, and i'll see if I can think of a scientific explanation that meets the evidence.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Not the way I present it.

I actually get them to admit ... in a roundabout way ... they never had it.

Of course, most are smart enough to stop answering my questions.

Yeah, right; cool story...

 

[Strathos]

That is science's standards for claims ... not God's.

Science sets the bar too high, then can't get over it ... leading a myriad of people to Hell.

Not to mention being a catalyst for many leaving the faith.

And for the record, I'm good at showing, from the Bible, those who claim they left the faith because of science never had that faith in the first place.

If someone says they left the faith because of science, it probably means that their theological education was of the type that insisted on science-denying, super literal interpretations of scripture. When they found out that creationists were lying to them about evolution, they jumped to the conclusion that they must have also been lying about the existence of God.

 

[AV1611VET]

If someone says they left the faith because of science, it probably means that their theological education was of the type that insisted on science-denying, super literal interpretations of scripture.

I don't buy that.

If the benefits of serving God are as good as Hebrews 6 and other parts of the Bible say they are, then I'm sure people would be willing to excuse those "super literal interpreters of scripture" as simply being wrong -- not lying.

When they found out that creationists were lying to them about evolution, they jumped to the conclusion that they must have also been lying about the existence of God.

But they can't deny the benefits they received as listed in Hebrews 6.

If I was them, I'd stick around ... just for the benefits.

Peter said it best ...

John 6:68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.