Did God Create Fossils?

[Colter]

Do you have some examples ?

Yes, here is a link to a site that has reports on this sort of stuff. Rather than copy and past or frankly waste my time with someone who will likely argue about it anyway, you can read the reports and decide for yourself.

http://www.ubthenews.com/Reports_List.htm

 

[paloma22]

Oh, is that all?

Sure, an old evolved earth has billions of fossils laid down over hundreds of millions of years.

Global flood legends as well as many other myths are indeed common among cultures. But according to Genesis everyone except an ancestor of the Jews were drown, so only descendants of Noah would recall the flood. Australian aborigines aren't Jews paloma22, they've been there for 70,000 years. In fact NO other culture on earth seems to remember being related to Noah!

There have many generations since Noah, its no surprise that he would not be remember by all by name. The reason we have so many amazing legends of the flood in incredible detail, is because it actually happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth

After Noah, as time went on, the peoples spread out across the earth. Some believed and remembered, some did not. (just as today) Some stories grew wild and colorful but retained the core essence of the story. God preserved the True account with the Noah, Abraham Moses etc... and finally in the Bible. We don't subscribe to your assumptions of long ages, so the aborigines are ultimately descendants from Noah, as you and I are. The story has survived, because it was real, traumatic and world changing. Its pretty clear for any who have eyes to see. ;-)

 

[Colter]

Nice little primer for those interested.

http://njbiblescience.org/presentations/Noahs Ark - A Feasibility Study.pdf


There have many generations since Noah, its no surprise that he would not be remember by all by name. The reason we have so many amazing legends of the flood in incredible detail, is because it actually happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth

After Noah, as time went on, the peoples spread out across the earth. Some believed and remembered, some did not. (just as today) Some stories grew wild and colorful but retained the core essence of the story. God preserved the True account with the Noah, Abraham Moses etc... and finally in the Bible. We don't subscribe to your assumptions of long ages, so the aborigines are ultimately descendants from Noah, as you and I are. The story has survived, because it was real, traumatic and world changing. Its pretty clear for any who have eyes to see. ;-)

Duh! Of course cultures have flood stories, floods happen all the time. None of those cultures are Jewish people!

 

[Colter]

Also, the characterization that God regretted creating man is a man made concept. God never has and never will regret anything he will ever do! The flood story is a genealogical device used by the suppressed Hebrew priest class who were attempting to trace their blood lines back to Adam who they just assumed was the first man.

 

[paloma22]

God IS the Word, the Living Word, so the argument that God couldn't preserve "his word" is a false dichotomy. The authors of Genesis and the other books of the Bible made no claim to be writing by inspiration, church authority made that claim to maintain control.

Closed minded religious people are incapable of learning more, it gives them a sense of control. Jesus was killed by closed minded religious people.

If you really think there is no more truth to learn about God then there is nothing anyone can do.

God can and did preserve His Word, the Bible, which teaches a Global flood. Why do you not believe the Living Word?

Jesus thought Genesis trust worthy, why not you?

I know there is much truth to learn about God, lots of it is in the Bible. The Spirit leads and teaches us all.

"For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. 47"But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?" John 5:47

 

[Colter]

God can and did preserve His Word, the Bible, which teaches a Global flood. Why do you not believe the Living Word?

Jesus thought Genesis trust worthy, why not you?

I know there is much truth to learn about God, lots of it is in the Bible. The Spirit leads and teaches us all.

"For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. 47"But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?" John 5:47

Because I'm not gullible, and I don't believe the ridiculous, self important exaggerations written by the people who killed Jesus.

BTW, if Moses the reformer wrote Genesis, there is no scripture before him that survives.

 

[Colter]

Prehistoric China
Wiki


Year Date Event
780000 BC Peking Man died in modern Zhoukoudian.
125000-80000 BC H. sapiens appears in modern Dao County, Hunan.[1]
20000 BC Pottery was used in Xianren Cave.[2]
7600 BC The Zhenpiyan culture appeared.
Pigs were first domesticated in China.[3]
7500 BC The Pengtoushan culture appeared.
Rice was first domesticated in China.
7000 BC The Peiligang culture appeared.
6600 BC The Jiahu symbols were first used at Jiahu.
6500 BC The Cishan culture appeared.
6000 BC Dogs were first domesticated in China.[3]
Cows were first domesticated in China.[3]
5000 BC The Baijia culture appeared.
Oxen were first domesticated in China.[3]
Sheep were first domesticated in China.[3]
4500 BC The Hemudu culture died out.
4000 BC Symbols were carved into pottery at Banpo.
3630 BC Silk was invented by the Yangshao culture.


There are no Chinese Jews related to Noah!!!!!

 

[Riberra]

... written by the people who killed Jesus.

The Scribes and High Priests Pharisee caused that Jesus was put to death they were not Jews but of the Synagogue of Satan, fulfilling the first prophecy written in the Bible in Genesis 3:15 ... Jesus' heels were bruised on the cross.

http://worldeventsandthebible.com/2013/10/the-synagogue-of-satan-those-who-claim.html

 

[Hoghead1]

Paloma22, Divinely inspired as the Bible may be, it is still the product of a prescientific culture. I do not think God intended it to be an accurate geophysical witness. The issue here really isn't abut accepting or rejecting the Bible. The issue here is who's interpretation, underline interpretation, is right. The Bible is subject to many interpretations in the Christian tradition. You may think yours is the only one or of necessity the right one, but there are others as well. You are viewing Scripture within a fundamentalist framework, F8ine, nothing wrong with that. It is just that fundamentalism is not the only Christian approach to the Bible.

 

[paloma22]

Paloma22, Divinely inspired as the Bible may be, it is still the product of a prescientific culture. I do not think God intended it to be an accurate geophysical witness. The issue here really isn't abut accepting or rejecting the Bible. The issue here is who's interpretation, underline interpretation, is right. The Bible is subject to many interpretations in the Christian tradition. You may think yours is the only one or of necessity the right one, but there are others as well. You are viewing Scripture within a fundamentalist framework, F8ine, nothing wrong with that. It is just that fundamentalism is not the only Christian approach to the Bible.

Hi Hoghead,

The Bible makes no real "scientific" claims per say (whatever that means), it makes truth claims, yes, (i.e that a global flood happened and killed off all of sinful man kind and many of the creatures) In so far as a "geophysical witness" is concerned, scriptures claim is backed up by real science today and what we see in the field. The issue is exactly accepting or rejecting the Bible and what it says. Either a flood happened or it did not. Jesus understood that it happened, and that the "writings of Moses" were accurate, so, you are not really having a problem with my interpretation but Jesus's. (Considering science backs up Jesus, I don't see the problem.) My money is going to be on Jesus and the Bible and not man's interpretation. There is only one truth with regards to this issue. Either it happened or it did not. What exactly is the fundamentalism approach? Taking scripture at face value, taking into account all literary devices, is really the only valid position. Jesus seemed to think so.

Blessings

P

46"For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. 47"But if you do not believe his writings,[Genesis] how will you believe My words?" John 5:46

For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water,through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. 2 Peter 3:6

 

[paloma22]

Prehistoric China
Wiki


Year Date Event
780000 BC Peking Man died in modern Zhoukoudian.
125000-80000 BC H. sapiens appears in modern Dao County, Hunan.[1]
20000 BC Pottery was used in Xianren Cave.[2]
7600 BC The Zhenpiyan culture appeared.
Pigs were first domesticated in China.[3]
7500 BC The Pengtoushan culture appeared.
Rice was first domesticated in China.
7000 BC The Peiligang culture appeared.
6600 BC The Jiahu symbols were first used at Jiahu.
6500 BC The Cishan culture appeared.
6000 BC Dogs were first domesticated in China.[3]
Cows were first domesticated in China.[3]
5000 BC The Baijia culture appeared.
Oxen were first domesticated in China.[3]
Sheep were first domesticated in China.[3]
4500 BC The Hemudu culture died out.
4000 BC Symbols were carved into pottery at Banpo.
3630 BC Silk was invented by the Yangshao culture.


There are no Chinese Jews related to Noah!!!!!

If scripture is to be believed, (which to be a Christian means we believe it) we are ALL related to Noah. The Chinese are related to Noah as are the blacks and whites. https://answersingenesis.org/tower-of-babel/how-many-races-did-god-create/

Acts 17:26 reads, “And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings.”

 

[Colter]

Hi Hoghead,

The Bible makes no real "scientific" claims per say (whatever that means), it makes truth claims, yes, (i.e that a global flood happened and killed off all of sinful man kind and many of the creatures) In so far as a "geophysical witness" is concerned, scriptures claim is backed up by real science today and what we see in the field. The issue is exactly accepting or rejecting the Bible and what it says. Either a flood happened or it did not. Jesus understood that it happened, and that the "writings of Moses" were accurate, so, you are not really having a problem with my interpretation but Jesus's. (Considering science backs up Jesus, I don't see the problem.) My money is going to be on Jesus and the Bible and not man's interpretation. There is only one truth with regards to this issue. Either it happened or it did not. What exactly is the fundamentalism approach? Taking scripture at face value, taking into account all literary devices, is really the only valid position. Jesus seemed to think so.

Blessings

P

46"For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. 47"But if you do not believe his writings,[Genesis] how will you believe My words?" John 5:46

For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water,through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. 2 Peter 3:6

Books written about people and events long after the fact, or even close to the event, don't always restate things accurately.

All of the apostles were Jews, they naturally brought their beliefs to the teachings of Jesus. Writing and preaching in hind site, they wanted Jesus to conform to their concept of the Jewish messiah.

In one age one Bible book said that Yahweh caused the numbering of Israel. In another age the same story being retold had Satan causing the numbering. The story's are different because Judaism evolved.

But once the belief emerged that God wrote the Bible then believers could not be intellectually honest about the errors and inconsistencies.

But you do have faith and that's what's important.

 

[Colter]

If scripture is to be believed, (which to be a Christian means we believe it) we are ALL related to Noah. The Chinese are related to Noah as are the blacks and whites. https://answersingenesis.org/tower-of-babel/how-many-races-did-god-create/

Acts 17:26 reads, “And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings.”

I believe Jesus is who he said he was, the books written about him I take for what we should expect them to be.

 

[Hieronymus]

Prehistoric China
Wiki


Year Date Event
780000 BC Peking Man died in modern Zhoukoudian.
125000-80000 BC H. sapiens appears in modern Dao County, Hunan.[1]
20000 BC Pottery was used in Xianren Cave.[2]
7600 BC The Zhenpiyan culture appeared.
Pigs were first domesticated in China.[3]
7500 BC The Pengtoushan culture appeared.
Rice was first domesticated in China.
7000 BC The Peiligang culture appeared.
6600 BC The Jiahu symbols were first used at Jiahu.
6500 BC The Cishan culture appeared.
6000 BC Dogs were first domesticated in China.[3]
Cows were first domesticated in China.[3]
5000 BC The Baijia culture appeared.
Oxen were first domesticated in China.[3]
Sheep were first domesticated in China.[3]
4500 BC The Hemudu culture died out.
4000 BC Symbols were carved into pottery at Banpo.
3630 BC Silk was invented by the Yangshao culture.


There are no Chinese Jews related to Noah!!!!!

LIE !
The table of nations is as good as proven to be accurate.
Genetics show Jews of all races descend from Jews.

 

[Hieronymus]

Duh! Of course cultures have flood stories, floods happen all the time. None of those cultures are Jewish people!

We're talking about HUGE floods, like the Biblical flood.
DUH !

 

[Colter]

We're talking about HUGE floods, like the Biblical flood.
DUH !

If it was the Biblical flood those cultures would be dead so those floods wouldn't be a part of their historical narratives.

 

[Colter]

LIE !
The table of nations is as good as proven to be accurate.
Genetics show Jews of all races descend from Jews.

 

[Hieronymus]

If it was the Biblical flood those cultures would be dead

The table of nations, mr Brain, is post-flood, post-Babel.

 

[Colter]

The table of nations, mr Brain, is post-flood, post-Babel.

There are cultures around the world that are much older than the Biblical claim (by Jews) that everyone on earth is related to them.

 

[Hieronymus]

There are cultures around the world that are much older than the Biblical claim (by Jews) that everyone on earth is related to them.

Genetics and historic records prove otherwise.

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