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Did God create evil?

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Did God create evil?

We discussed this at a recent round table discussion and I wondered how you might answer it.

Here is one view from GotQuestions.org:
Question: "Did God create evil?"
Answer: At first it might seem that if God created all things then evil must have been created by God. However, there is an assumption here that needs to be cleared up. Evil is not a "thing" - like a rock or electricity. You can't have a jar of evil! Rather, evil is something that occurs, like running. Evil has no existence of its own - it is really a lack in a good thing. For example, holes are real but they only exist in something else. We call the absence of dirt a hole - but it cannot be separated from the dirt. So when God created, it is true that all that existed was good. One of the good things that God made was creatures who had the freedom to choose good. In order to have a real choice, God had to allow there to be something besides good to choose. So God allowed these free angels and humans to choose good or non-good (evil). When a bad relationship exists between two good things we call that evil, but it does not become a "thing" that required God to create it.

Perhaps a further illustration will help. If I were to ask the average person "does cold exist?" - his/her answer would likely be yes. However, this is incorrect. Cold does not exist. Cold is the absence of heat. Similarly, darkness does not exist. Darkness is the absence of light. Similarly, evil is the absence of good, or better, evil is the absence of God. God did not have to create evil, but rather only allow for the absence of good.

Look at the example of Job in Job chapters 1-2. Satan wanted to destroy Job, and God allowed Satan to do everything but kill Job. God allowed this to happen to prove to Satan that Job was righteous because he loved God, not because God had blessed him so richly. God is sovereign and ultimately in control of everything that happens. Satan cannot do anything unless he has God's "permission." God did not create evil, but He allows evil. If God had not allowed for the possibility of evil, both mankind and angels would be serving God out of obligation, not choice. He did not want “robots” that simply did what He wanted them to do because of their "programming." God allowed for the possibility of evil so that we could genuinely have a free will and choose whether we wanted to serve Him or not.

Ultimately, there is not an answer to these questions that we can fully comprehend. We, as finite human beings, can never fully understand an infinite God (Romans 11:33-34). Sometimes we think we understand why God is doing something, only to find out later that it was for a different purpose than we originally thought. God looks at things from an eternal perspective. We look at things from an earthly perspective. Why did God put man on earth knowing that Adam and Eve would sin and therefore bring evil, death, and suffering on all mankind? Why didn’t He just create us all and leave us in Heaven where we would be perfect and without suffering? The best answer I can come up with is this: God didn’t want a race of robots who did not have a free will. God had to allow the possibility of evil for us to have a true choice of whether to worship God or not. If we never had to suffer and experience evil, would we truly know how wonderful heaven is? God did not create evil, but He allowed it. If He hadn’t allowed evil, we would be worshipping Him out of obligation, not by a choice of our own free will.

~Jim


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As good an answer as I have heard, I guess. In a sense, God did create creatures with free will, so I guess he created the possibility of the existence of evil. Looking at it (evil) as purely the absence of good, if we agree that God is everywhere, does he purposely vacate, say, a jar, so that it is filled with evil?
 
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Stating that the Holy Spirit is responsible for evil - that's blasphemy.

God is good.
Satan is evil.

God is light.
Satan is darkness.

God is righteousness.
Satan is sinfulness.

Never the twain shall meet. And God is not bi-polar.

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God creates no voids or darkness. He indeed does not create spiritual vacuums or moral evil, but he did create night as distinct and distinguishable from day, meaning that God created the revolution of the earth around the sun, whereby earth experiences "darkness".

"Darkness" really is not its own entity, but is contextual when defined as "the absence of light". Therefore, even "darkness" has no identity, but that which is separated from, or absent of, light.

Lucifer went away from the Son, and he saw "darkness" due to the absence of Light. The earth turns away from the sun, and it sees "darkness" due to the absence of sun light.

If darkness were a true entity, rather than being the state of light-absence, then when you walked into a dark room and turned on a light, the darkness would not disappear. Darkness is only a place where light has once happened, or has yet to happen. I don't know if this story is factual or fictional, but the points in the story very well summarize what I am stating here:


Does evil exist?

The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied, "Yes, he did!"

"God created everything? The professor asked.

"Yes sir", the student replied.

The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are then God is evil". The student became quiet before such an answer. The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question professor?"

"Of course", replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"

"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question.

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat."

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

The professor responded, "Of course it does."

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down.
 
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He said, "I am the vine and ye are the branches". The vine does not create withering. Withering only occurs when the branch has broken itself from the vine. The vine only concerns itself with life and connectivity.

Living apart from the vine is a decision one makes, but the withering is completely separate and distinct from the vine itself.
 
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Medieval theologians argued that evil is the absence of good just as darkness is the absence of light and cold is the absence of heat and a vacuum is the absence of matter.

~Jim

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I dont think evil was created at all. I think it's the by product of given choice. When Adam and Eve we're in the garden, they didn't know what freewill or choice was at all. All they knew was Gods voice. They were guided by His voice and knew no other. Not until Satan entered the garden and presented them a choice was freewill exercised. God said if you eat you shall die. That was the only voice they heard. It was the only voice they knew. Choice wasn't even issue. But when Satan said "You shall not surely die" then was a choice suddenly presented. So is the evil the ability to choose?? God didn't want them to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But to be able to respond to His voice.
If the evil is the ability to choose. Then Christianity is not about everything that is good and evil. But about eating from the tree of Life. Jesus.
Apparently Satan found that He was able to make a choice when He was dazzeled by his own beauty. It drew Him away from only hearing Gods voice to hearing His own, "I will exault myself above the Throne, 'I will be like the Most High". The by-product of being able to listen to another voice, and make a choice.
 
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