Did God change?

[Lulav]

Can anyone imagine Jesus saying this?


Deuteronomy 25:1 “If there is a dispute between men and they come into court and the judges decide between them, acquitting the innocent and condemning the guilty, 2 then if the guilty man deserves to be beaten, the judge shall cause him to lie down and be beaten in his presence with a number of stripes in proportion to his offense. 3 Forty stripes may be given him, but not more, lest, if one should go on to beat him with more stripes than these, your brother be degraded in your sight.


Not only that,but why is the guy degraded,after 40?
Like 38 stripes would not be degrading?

Frogster, do you not believe that Jesus is G-d?

 

[Lulav]

Matt 5:38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

And you probably believe that it means to just let someone who is evil beat you until you were dead? That is not what he is saying here.

Here, instead of me explaining it, I've found a website that does a pretty good job.

What does Turn the other cheek REALLY mean?

I love it, it's like when trying to be trapped he taught, render to Caesar what is Caesar's and what is G-ds to G-d. Brilliant! No wonder they said no one had ever spoken as he did before!

 

[Lulav]

Jesus preached mercy over the letter of the Law but he didn't deny that the Law was unjust.

John 8:

5 Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?"
6 They said this to test him, so that they could have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger.

7 But when they continued asking him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."

Where is he saying here the law is unjust? The ones that brougt this case to him were the unjust ones. The law requires both parties, (both the woman and the man) to be accused together. They only brought the woman. There's a great deep lesson on this but I don't want to bore you all.

Adultery is a big deal to G-d and also to Jesus, Israel's biggest sin was adultery by idolatry.

 

[JamesAH]

Frogster, do you not believe that Jesus is G-d?

Why do you say G-d instead of God you have fears of o's or something?

 

[Sphinx777]

Spoiler: The Last Judgement

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Lulav Frogster, do you not believe that Jesus is G-d?

Why do you say G-d instead of God you have fears of o's or something?

Maybe it's a culture thing?
I wondered that myself, but.. she did use the o's in the rest of the words.....

"Fr-gster, d- y-u n-t believe that Jesus is G-d?"

 

[Lulav]

This is an interesting passage. Although Jesus did not comment on the justness of the Law in this passage He did manage to avert the just punishment of this woman's sin.

He was not trying to advert anything. He knew she had sinned, but the punishment according to Torah was for both parties. Basically it was thrown out of court for lack of required evidence.

 

[Lulav]

Hi Guys,,,I am looking to see,do any of you think Jesus would pick a a whip,and whip a man 39 tmes?

Matt 5:43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

My answer would be no, but not for the reasons you think. He would not do it because it was not his position to hand out the sentence for breaking the laws. This was part of the job given by G-d (Jesus) to the Levitical tribe. Jesus was from the tribe of Judah.

If he did do this, he would be breaking the Torah, and then be sinning and could not be the spotless lamb that took your sins in his own body so you could have life!

 

[Lulav]

Hmmmm..would Jesus whip even an enemy?

Do you see a change?


Matt 5;43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

No change, he kept the Torah and taught others how it should be kept.

 

[Christos Anesti]

Maybe it's the same as this:

They said to him, x“Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce and to send her away?” 8 He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9zAnd I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

Matthew 19 7-9

 

[Frogster]

Frogster, do you not believe that Jesus is G-d?

Who is G-D? I am not familiar with initials.

 

[Frogster]

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[Frogster]

My answer would be no, but not for the reasons you think. He would not do it because it was not his position to hand out the sentence for breaking the laws. This was part of the job given by G-d (Jesus) to the Levitical tribe. Jesus was from the tribe of Judah.

If he did do this, he would be breaking the Torah, and then be sinning and could not be the spotless lamb that took your sins in his own body so you could have life!

Why? He used himslef as an example of a judge,who would not justify the wicked,even though now he does.

To say that he does not hand out sentenses is odd at best,Is he not the judge of all?
Arent people under wrath right now? Rom 1:18.

 

[Frogster]

Why do you say G-d instead of God you have fears of o's or something?

Maybe it's a culture thing?
I wondered that myself, but.. she did use the o's in the rest of the words.....

"Fr-gster, d- y-u n-t believe that Jesus is G-d?"

we could start a thread,and see how long we can go,without using o's

 

[Frogster]

Where is he saying here the law is unjust? The ones that brougt this case to him were the unjust ones. The law requires both parties, (both the woman and the man) to be accused together. They only brought the woman. There's a great deep lesson on this but I don't want to bore you all.

Adultery is a big deal to G-d and also to Jesus, Israel's biggest sin was adultery by idolatry.

Then why didnt Jesus give that answer? Why didnt he say ..where is the man?

 

[Frogster]

No change, he kept the Torah and taught others how it should be kept.

tell ya..

love you enemy..

hate your enemy..

Hmmm

I would rather have a new testament neighbor,than an OT one.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Then why didnt Jesus give that answer? Why didnt he say ..where is the man?

Good question!

John 8 and Jesus writing in the Dirt - Page 6 - Christian Forums
John 8 and Jesus writing in the Dirt

John 8:6This yet they said trying Him, that they may be having to be accusing of Him. The yet Jesus down-stooping to the finger wrote into the ground.
7 As yet they persisted asking Him, He up-bends and said toward them "The sinless-one of ye first the stone on her let be casting"!
8 And again down-stooping He wrote into the ground.

Daniel 5:24 In-then before-him being-sent the-fingertip, that of the-hand and-the-writing, the-this, being-signified
25 And this the writing that being signified: 'Mene', Mene', T@qal , P@rac'.

 

[JamesAH]

Who is G-D? I am not familiar with initials.

Would you like to buy a vowel

 

[Frogster]

Good question!

John 8 and Jesus writing in the Dirt - Page 6 - Christian Forums
John 8 and Jesus writing in the Dirt

John 8:6This yet they said trying Him, that they may be having to be accusing of Him. The yet Jesus down-stooping to the finger wrote into the ground.
7 As yet they persisted asking Him, He up-bends and said toward them "The sinless-one of ye first the stone on her let be casting"!
8 And again down-stooping He wrote into the ground.

Daniel 5:24 In-then before-him being-sent the-fingertip, that of the-hand and-the-writing, the-this, being-signified
25 And this the writing that being signified: 'Mene', Mene', T@qal , P@rac'.

Thanks LLOJ.

 

[Frogster]

Would you like to buy a vowel

Do you mean a vwel?