Did China Steal Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponize It?

[NightHawkeye]

From "An interesting coincidence of events", files: Did China Steal Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponize It?

Last year a mysterious shipment was caught smuggling Coronavirus from Canada. It was traced to Chinese agents working at a Canadian lab. Subsequent investigation by GreatGameIndia linked the agents to Chinese Biological Warfare Program from where the virus is suspected to have leaked causing the Wuhan Coronavirus outbreak.
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Following investigation, the incident was traced to Chinese agents working at NML.
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The NML scientist who was escorted out of the Canadian lab along with her husband, another biologist, and members of her research team is believed to be a Chinese Bio-Warfare agent Xiangguo Qiu. Qiu was the head of the Vaccine Development and Antiviral Therapies Section in the Special Pathogens Program at Canada’s NML.
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Dr. Xiangguo Qiu made at least five trips over the school year 2017-18 to the above mentioned Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, which was certified for BSL4 in January 2017. Moreover, in August 2017, the National Health Commission of China approved research activities involving Ebola, Nipah, and Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever viruses at the Wuhan facility.

Coincidentally, the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory is located only 20 miles away from the Huanan Seafood Market which is the epicenter of the Coronavirus outbreak dubbed the Wuhan Coronavirus.​

 

[Nithavela]

Betteridge's law of headlines - Wikipedia

 

[Zoii]

The basis of your article is from a self-stated right-wing blog based in Bulgaria that takes payments to publish fake news stories. It had been caught as the instigators of several fake news stories against liberal US politicians and similarly fake stories in support of President Trump. It is rated by several Fact Checking sites as being heavily conspiracy based, using pseudoscience, and being mixed in terms of its use of the truth.

I attach a link to one such fact-checking site.
Zero Hedge - Media Bias/Fact Check

 

[tampasteve]

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[Nithavela]

The basis of your article is from a self-stated right-wing blog based in Bulgaria that takes payments to publish fake news stories. It had been caught as the instigators of several fake news stories against liberal US politicians and similarly fake stories in support of President Trump. It is rated by several Fact Checking sites as being heavily conspiracy based, using pseudoscience, and being mixed in terms of its use of the truth.

I attach a link to one such fact-checking site.
Zero Hedge - Media Bias/Fact Check

Called it.

 

[IceJad]

Those darn Canadians!

 

[Hazelelponi]

From "An interesting coincidence of events", files: Did China Steal Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponize It?

Last year a mysterious shipment was caught smuggling Coronavirus from Canada. It was traced to Chinese agents working at a Canadian lab. Subsequent investigation by GreatGameIndia linked the agents to Chinese Biological Warfare Program from where the virus is suspected to have leaked causing the Wuhan Coronavirus outbreak.
...
Following investigation, the incident was traced to Chinese agents working at NML.
...
The NML scientist who was escorted out of the Canadian lab along with her husband, another biologist, and members of her research team is believed to be a Chinese Bio-Warfare agent Xiangguo Qiu. Qiu was the head of the Vaccine Development and Antiviral Therapies Section in the Special Pathogens Program at Canada’s NML.
...
Dr. Xiangguo Qiu made at least five trips over the school year 2017-18 to the above mentioned Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, which was certified for BSL4 in January 2017. Moreover, in August 2017, the National Health Commission of China approved research activities involving Ebola, Nipah, and Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever viruses at the Wuhan facility.

Coincidentally, the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory is located only 20 miles away from the Huanan Seafood Market which is the epicenter of the Coronavirus outbreak dubbed the Wuhan Coronavirus.​

I don't know anything about this "greatgameindia" or the trustworthiness of this source, but my husband and I have said virtually the same thing, this virus has all the hallmarks of a weaponized virus and the location of the epicenter is more than just suspect, it's nearly an assurance as to where this began - in a lab.

My husband is of a mind that the Chinese then already have a vaccine - because vaccines are always developed with weaponized viruses..

however, they seem disinclined to use or share the vaccine, but this might only mean they want to see how this spreads; how quickly and areas of greatest impact.

It is concerning, all the way around.

 

[Sparagmos]

From "An interesting coincidence of events", files: Did China Steal Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponize It?

Last year a mysterious shipment was caught smuggling Coronavirus from Canada. It was traced to Chinese agents working at a Canadian lab. Subsequent investigation by GreatGameIndia linked the agents to Chinese Biological Warfare Program from where the virus is suspected to have leaked causing the Wuhan Coronavirus outbreak.
...
Following investigation, the incident was traced to Chinese agents working at NML.
...
The NML scientist who was escorted out of the Canadian lab along with her husband, another biologist, and members of her research team is believed to be a Chinese Bio-Warfare agent Xiangguo Qiu. Qiu was the head of the Vaccine Development and Antiviral Therapies Section in the Special Pathogens Program at Canada’s NML.
...
Dr. Xiangguo Qiu made at least five trips over the school year 2017-18 to the above mentioned Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, which was certified for BSL4 in January 2017. Moreover, in August 2017, the National Health Commission of China approved research activities involving Ebola, Nipah, and Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever viruses at the Wuhan facility.

Coincidentally, the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory is located only 20 miles away from the Huanan Seafood Market which is the epicenter of the Coronavirus outbreak dubbed the Wuhan Coronavirus.​

Goodness, did you check your sources on this? The only source is a a conspiracy theory website. Nothing in that article has a verifiable citation.

 

[jayem]

Those darn Canadians!

Yeah. Blame Canada.

 

[NightHawkeye]

... and today's update: Ottawa secures plane to evacuate Canadians from China, warns against all travel to country

 

[dufrianord]

The basis of your article is from a self-stated right-wing blog based in Bulgaria that takes payments to publish fake news stories. It had been caught as the instigators of several fake news stories against liberal US politicians and similarly fake stories in support of President Trump. It is rated by several Fact Checking sites as being heavily conspiracy based, using pseudoscience, and being mixed in terms of its use of the truth.

I attach a link to one such fact-checking site.
Zero Hedge - Media Bias/Fact Check

Attacking the source: Establishment Royalists Favourite Online Tactics
or what ad hominem really means.

These fact checkers are tricky, for examples did Factcheck.org say that there “New Coronavirus Wasn’t ‘Predicted’ In Simulation” and they say this by the name and origin was different. Things that don’t matter.

Pandemic exercise was held. (Witch the factcheckers also says when reading more then the headlines.)

I think it’s global food shortage or just a test, too much panic and hysteria in the media and right after World Economic Forum ends.

Virus killed half of Chinese pigs since August 2018, dropping it from drones and its Chinese New Year now and this happens instead of hysteria over food shortages breaks this out, all little bit to convenient. China’s great pork shortage: why it’s a crisis for Beijing communist party

Or perhaps did it mutate and now kills human too, who knows..

 

[Zoii]

Attacking the source:

I wasn't commenting on the OP itself - My comment was directed at the source of information used to support the argument - The source is known for its dubious posts, being frequently fake, using pseudoscience, and being biased. So - a poor choice of source to substantiate an argument - It has to be regarded as unreliable.

 

[Rick Otto]

The basis of your article is from a self-stated right-wing blog based in Bulgaria that takes payments to publish fake news stories. It had been caught as the instigators of several fake news stories against liberal US politicians and similarly fake stories in support of President Trump. It is rated by several Fact Checking sites as being heavily conspiracy based, using pseudoscience, and being mixed in terms of its use of the truth.

I attach a link to one such fact-checking site.
Zero Hedge - Media Bias/Fact Check

Did you look for any criticisms of your fact checker?
What led you to decide to trust them?
Regarding that:

 

[Zoii]

Did you look for any criticisms of your fact checker?
What led you to decide to trust them?
Regarding that:

You have posted a Youtube of a FOX commentator who is annoyed with the five most common Fact checkers. The Youtube shows no evidence that those fact-checkers get any of their checked facts incorrect - just that he claims (with no actual evidence) that they have a leftist orientation - But of course this is from FOX news - a well known right wing media outlet.

So - Ok a commentary without facts or evidence from a right wing media outlet whining about their facts being checked - Nothing new there.

This of course has zero to do with the OP - which posted a claim by a group that has been checked out to be unreliable. Are you stating that this Bulgarian site is a bastion of truth or something?

 

[dufrianord]

Attacking the source: Establishment Royalists Favourite Online Tactics
or what ad hominem really means.

These fact checkers are tricky, for examples did Factcheck.org say that there “New Coronavirus Wasn’t ‘Predicted’ In Simulation” and they say this by the name and origin was different. Things that don’t matter.

Pandemic exercise was held. (Witch the factcheckers also says when reading more then the headlines.)
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I think it’s global food shortage or just a test, too much panic and hysteria in the media and right after World Economic Forum ends.

Virus killed half of Chinese pigs since August 2018, dropping it from drones and its Chinese New Year now and this happens instead of hysteria over food shortages breaks this out, all little bit to convenient. China’s great pork shortage: why it’s a crisis for Beijing communist party

Or perhaps did it mutate and now kills human too, who knows..

I wasn't commenting on the OP itself - My comment was directed at the source of information used to support the argument - The source is known for its dubious posts, being frequently fake, using pseudoscience, and being biased. So - a poor choice of source to substantiate an argument - It has to be regarded as unreliable.

i know, it was ad homenim really means and everybody does it. (almost)

This particulary incident seems to be a case for the fact checkers. How did they know? So fast, and can decide it wasn’t from the lab 30km from the epicenter in Wuhan

Washington Times had the same story
Science magazine says it’s source is not the wet market

I don’t know where the epicenter is but mainstream media right now is full of story’s like this, near begging for censorship: Coronavirus misinformation is running rampant on social media — and tech giants are profiting from it

 

[Rick Otto]

You have posted a Youtube of a FOX commentator who is annoyed with the five most common Fact checkers. The Youtube shows no evidence that those fact-checkers get any of their checked facts incorrect - just that he claims (with no actual evidence) that they have a leftist orientation - But of course this is from FOX news - a well known right wing media outlet.

So - Ok a commentary without facts or evidence from a right wing media outlet whining about their facts being checked - Nothing new there.

This of course has zero to do with the OP - which posted a claim by a group that has been checked out to be unreliable. Are you stating that this Bulgarian site is a bastion of truth or something?

LOL, no... but thanks for asking.
It was an entertaining overview of what's wrong with some of the top fact checkers. There was so much dirt on so many of them I just rolled with this guy's rendition of Balaam's donkey. The donkey wasn't an impressive source and had some obvious bias, but it spoke a critical truth at an essential moment in time.

So I didn't at first glance see any critiques of your fact checkers, and nothing immediately fishy about David Van Zandt or his staff, so now I'm reading their methodology for rating credibility.

They're looking pretty good so far.
Does that mean I'm holding you up as a bastion of truth now?
Do you ever indulge humor or are you just into drama?

 

[Zoii]

LOL, no... but thanks for asking.
It was an entertaining overview of what's wrong with some of the top fact checkers. There was so much dirt on so many of them I just rolled with this guy's rendition of Balaam's donkey. The donkey wasn't an impressive source and had some obvious bias, but it spoke a critical truth at an essential moment in time.

So I didn't at first glance see any critiques of your fact checkers, and nothing immediately fishy about David Van Zandt or his staff, so now I'm reading their methodology for rating credibility.

They're looking pretty good so far.
Does that mean I'm holding you up as a bastion of truth now?
Do you ever indulge humor or are you just into drama?

This is a serious topic. But sure, by all means entertain

 

[Rick Otto]

This is a serious topic. But sure, by all means entertain

Does it get cold up there on moral high ground?
In your last tantrum you slammed YouTube as a citable source but it's approved in the rules for this forum ( see my signature) so please stop the flaming and accept YouTube or maybe look for a different, younger & more serious forum.

 

[Arbown]

Another one for you:
Harvard Professor, BU Researcher Among 3 Charged With Illegal Ties To China

Harvard Professor, BU Researcher Among 3 Arrested For Ties To China

"Federal Agents arrested Dr. Charles Lieber, chair of Harvard University's Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, with lying to the Department of Defense about secret monthly payments of $50,000.00 paid by China and receipt of millions more to help set up a chemical/biological “Research” laboratory in China. Also arrested were two Chinese “Students” working as research assistants, one of whom was actually a lieutenant in the Chinese Army, the other captured at Logan Airport as he tried to catch a flight to China - smuggling 21 vials of “Sensitive Biological Samples” according to the FBI."

 

[ILiekCatz]

From "An interesting coincidence of events", files: Did China Steal Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponize It?

Last year a mysterious shipment was caught smuggling Coronavirus from Canada. It was traced to Chinese agents working at a Canadian lab. Subsequent investigation by GreatGameIndia linked the agents to Chinese Biological Warfare Program from where the virus is suspected to have leaked causing the Wuhan Coronavirus outbreak.
...
Following investigation, the incident was traced to Chinese agents working at NML.
...
The NML scientist who was escorted out of the Canadian lab along with her husband, another biologist, and members of her research team is believed to be a Chinese Bio-Warfare agent Xiangguo Qiu. Qiu was the head of the Vaccine Development and Antiviral Therapies Section in the Special Pathogens Program at Canada’s NML.
...
Dr. Xiangguo Qiu made at least five trips over the school year 2017-18 to the above mentioned Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, which was certified for BSL4 in January 2017. Moreover, in August 2017, the National Health Commission of China approved research activities involving Ebola, Nipah, and Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever viruses at the Wuhan facility.

Coincidentally, the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory is located only 20 miles away from the Huanan Seafood Market which is the epicenter of the Coronavirus outbreak dubbed the Wuhan Coronavirus.​

no idea how canada is involved, but coronavirus was recently found to contain RNA strands of HIV. i say it's a bioweapon gone out of control