Did Adam and Eve eat?

[juvenissun]

Actually, it's not so much what they are eating that I was hinting at, but that's still an interesting point. What I am saying is, if there was to death before the fall, then there would be no reason for people to eat anything at all. If there is no death then nutrition is no longer a requirement to live.

Adan can eat does not mean Adam needs to eat. Adam does not die either way.

May be animal is your concern too. But you did not ask it in the OP, so it is not be bothered.

 

[juvenissun]

This is an argument which has been used by theistic evolutionists before. The usual creationist response is that Adam and Eve were vegetarians (plant deaths do not count because plants do not have the same "breath of life" that both animals and humans have).

Not only this, but there was no predation prior to the fall. All carnivorous animals (including dinosaurs ...) ate plants too. Animals only began eating one another after the Fall. And in case you're wondering why most Christians aren't vegetarians, it's because humans were given permission to eat meat following the end of the Flood.

The more we question the literality of the Bible, the more ridiculous the answers become: apparently, it's fine for humans to eat animals because we have been given permission to do so. But the fact that animals eat one another is a sign of the terible evil that humans brought into the world.

Makes sense ...

There is a very simple theological answer to your concerns. I wonder why is this still your question. May be you are too occupied by the evolution story?

 

[juvenissun]

Which is another thing - the Earth is only so big. If animals reproduce but don't ever die...

They "die", but they don't "die".

 

[Seipai]

This is your real question.

What if the food they eat was not alive?

It is hard to think of any food that was not alive at some point in time.

 

[juvenissun]

It is hard to think of any food that was not alive at some point in time.

You are taking them every day: fruits and vegetables.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

You are taking them every day: fruits and vegetables.

Lol. Who's going to break the bad news to him?

 

[pgp_protector]

Lol. Who's going to break the bad news to him?

They must have unique definition of live

 

[AV1611VET]

They must have unique definition of live

John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

 

[pgp_protector]

John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

And yet that's wrong, seeds don't DIE when you plant them.

 

[AV1611VET]

And yet that's wrong, seeds don't DIE when you plant them.

Jesus said otherwise.

And He prefaced it with "verily, verily."

Do you know what that means?

 

[pgp_protector]

Jesus said otherwise.

And He prefaced it with "verily, verily."

Do you know what that means?

Sorry, Seeds Do Not Die when planted.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry, Seeds Do Not Die when planted.

Says you.

The truth is that in the process of sprouting a seed must sacrifice itself, or "die", in order to become a plant. This is because a seed is biologically similar to an egg. Just like an egg, a seed contains an embryo of living tissue. The remainder of the seed is designed to feed, protect, and sacrifice itself for this embryo. The seed doesn't turn into a plant, but is used up for the success and survival of the embryo it carries.

SOURCE

 

[PsychoSarah]

Sorry, Seeds Do Not Die when planted.

Who in the world thinks seeds die when planted?

 

[PsychoSarah]

The remainder of the seed is a hard, lifeless shell, or is nutrients. It would be like saying that the dead skin that comes off of you sacrificed itself so that your complexion would remain nice. The reality is that the parts of a seed that do not become a plant weren't alive long before the plant sprouts.

Same idea could be applied to the chicken egg.

 

[AV1611VET]

Who in the world thinks seeds die when planted?

Jesus.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Jesus.

They don't, I grow plants extensively as a hobby.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Seeds eventually die if they don't sprout, not if they do.

 

[pgp_protector]

Says you.


SOURCE

no, says the facts, but we all know when the facts don't jive with your opinion, you'll just tell em to take a hike.
Seed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

And yet that's wrong, seeds don't DIE when you plant them.

Jesus said otherwise.

Once again we have a Biblical passage that requires a bit of context:

The whole of John 12:20-36 is Jesus predicting his death - he is basically saying in order for the world to be saved, he must die. He is using the comparison of wheat because in order to grow news crops, the kernel has to be seperated from the head and planted. It will then sprout a whole new plant.

So why does Jesus say the kernel has to "die"? Probably because the actual planting involves putting it in the ground and covering it with earth - not unlike a human burial. It's probably a poetic reference to his own inevitable death too. But he is NOT saying that plants are not alive.

AV1611VET: Please stop quoting passages out of context. It's misleading.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I think that, because God instructed what was edible, Adam and Eve must have rquired sustenance to survive. This goes against the idea that death didn't exist until the fall. Because of this, it shows the allegorical and mythological nature of Genesis.

no, because the fall led to death. That is to say that, because of the fall we ALL will die unless Christ comes back first that is the ONLY way we avoid death; otherwise no matter how well I care for myself I WILL die one day. Now, may certain life choices lead to an earlier death than other certainly no question about it. However, even if I never once get an oz over weight never once eat ANY junk food never use drugs, never have a sip of alcohol or a single puff off a cigarette or anything I will still die. Now if I do that stuff to excess will I likely die YOUNGER yes, but if I never do ANY of the above I will still die one day.